Featured So Why are Christians so concerned about Obamacare and Politics?

If anyone thinks the op is actually looking for a genuine answer I have some ocean front property to sell you in New Mexico.

To the op let me go ahead and let you know now. We will post and discuss these issues on this board. No amount of whining will change that.

 

Christians are like other people--and people often take some interest in politics. I guess it comes out of concern for your country and/or wanting to help it.

As to how the conservative and republican have come to be such a typically Christian position, I'm not entirely sure. (And I say that as someone who leans right myself, except I'm libertarian.) Part of it is for sure that politicians try to appeal to certain crowds in order to be elected, politicians will at least pretend to stand for the things the people whose votes he's trying to get stands for.
Hm...well, I suppose they have to have some sort of name for those who hold to the things conservatives do...it makes sense that most Christians would believe the conservative position to align with the Bible more, I suppose. As far as social issues are concerned, anyway.

 

I'm addressing your second post first ...

By posting your thread, you invited his comments.

You have gone to great pains the last few days to emphasize preaching the gospel over and above all else, which is exactly what we should be doing. But it apparently has not occurred to you that, through our biblically based sense of what is good, right, and just, we have judged an unfairly administered, financially biased, and essentially socialistic program of "health care" (parenthesized due to its true lack of actually being such a program) to be un-Christlike and therefore worthy of our protests. To be sure, we could include in our posts material that points us back to Christ, rather than toward evil, and I for one will endeavor to do that from this point forward.

We should control ourselves, and I admit that, when I post regarding his actions, I tend to let anger show through. It is not a good thing. But in my defense, just thinking about the sheer arrogance of the man occupying the White House angers me, this man who dares to rewrite laws on a whim, decide some laws will be enforced to the nth degree while others will be ignored, and most importantly is an utter failure at carrying out his duties as commander-in-chief.

I remain convinced he at least knew of, if not listened to, the cries of defenders at Benghazi begging for assistance, and issued the orders to stand down. I base this on 20 years of military experience as a combat officer in the rotary wing forces. No commander would leave his troops -- even civilian ones -- hanging like that, not without direct orders from much higher up than he/she, and even if such orders originated in the Pentagon, most would have ignored them as sheer idiocy. But it is difficult to ignore orders from the commander-in-chief, given what that office represents, regardless of who occupies it. That solidified my total, utter, and absolute disgust and distaste for this man.

Now he dares to put his own "legacy" above common sense. It is obvious the details of the ACA were deliberately hidden from the American public for four years. Only now are we seeing how truly reprehensible this program is, that it is designed to destroy free enterprise (insurance companies) and replace them with what must become, due to costs, bare bones health care plans on the government dime. It is putting doctors out of private practice, as they cannot afford to provide care at the high level to which they are accustomed, due to the fact they will be paid mere pennies on the dollar. That means they cannot afford to pay their own bills, and therefore many are opting out rather than face bankruptcy. The greatest expense in health care is currently malpractice insurance. Doctors have to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in premiums for hundreds of millions of dollars of insurance. The ACA does nothing to address malpractice, and the only way I see them handling it is likely to pass a law sometime soon that just bans lawsuits against government programs. That will be unconstitutional, of course, but that doesn't seem to bother the Great Pretender. He liberally and often violates it.

The majority of the American people want this program drastically cut back, or eliminated. That is an undeniable fact. No matter how the liberal media spins its apologies for this fool, they can't escape the fact 56% of the public -- five and a half percent more than voted for him -- want his idiotic program trashed. This nation was founded on the principles of democratic thought as executed through representative republican concepts. Such a governing system requires compromise, "deal-cutting" -- a process that is seen as distasteful recently, even though it has worked well for 223 years. It demands the oppositions talk to one another. Suddenly, the Empty Suit proclaims such activity is "unprecedented." He's is a liar, a manipulator, a cheap politician with no statesmanship talents whatsoever.

So forgive us if we pick on a man you have inexplicably chosen to admire. He is not worth your efforts, and being angry with people because they don't see whatever ethereal mystifying quality you see, is a waste of your time and ours. Yes, we're angry. We have a right to be. The man is destroying this country, one small piece at a time. At the end of his eight years, we will no longer be what we once were, nor will we ever be able to rise to that level again. In addition to the ruin he brings, he will cripple our ability to reverse his damage.

So live with, Zaac. You'll see more of it.

 

For the sake of the respondents: What is justice? Who are the afflicted, the oppressed and needy, and are the faithful ever commanded to raise their voices for them?

 

To echo the previous two posters: Are we not our brothers' keeper? Should we not bear the infirmities of the weaker?

 

I like Zaac enough, but this is lame. Everyone remembers his campaign against Romney.

 

Would you agree that there are those who don't fully understand the ACA, and need assistance with it?

 

Do you care that this program hasn't even been implemented yet but is being unfairly administered, is subject to change on the whim of the Great Pretender when it inconveniences his political patrons, that he has unconstitutionally made those changes, that it will cost far more than it was estimated to cost at inception, and that such increased costs are counterproductive to reducing the deficit and balancing the budget?

And if you don't, why not? Why should a Christian people not expect accountability from their government?

 

I've thought about that ever since he used it. I've come to the conclusion that 99.99% of us miss it -- myself included -- when "brothers keeper" statements are made. The truth is, Great Pretender and anyone else who uses this as a summary of the story from Genesis, acts out the theological equivalent of dropping his pants with that misuse of Cain's plaint to God.

In looking into this misuse of biblical history, I found an article online by Jerry Bowyer on Forbes' website. Exerpts, with some editing, are below.

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jerrybo...-brothers-keeper-if-my-brother-is-my-sheep/2/​

 

And that's fine, and you shouldn't judge others for doing the same.

Again, you put up a lot of great stuff here, but it in this case, it just looks like you're saying it's wrong when everyone else does it, because they don't do it like you do.