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  1. evangelist6589

    evangelist6589 Well-Known Member
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    Mac's latest book Strange Fire has been tagged thus far on amazon.com by Charismatics whom have given it bad reviews. I am still reading the book so have not given my review which will no doubt be 5 stars as most of Mac's get that rating. However Living in a World of Unbelievers was poorly written and so that is one exception to the normal 5/5 star review that Mac's books get by me. So I suggest you read the book and write your review on amazon for I fear even more Charismatic critics will show up and give the book a poor review and they themselves have not even read the book or given it much thought.
     
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    So we should read the book and give it 5/5 stars regardless of what we think of it.

    I think the book has been predestined to get bad reviews.
     
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    Living in A world of Unbelievers I would agree as it was very very poorly written. Mac dropped the ball and did not even address the TOPIC of the book. However this book I think is different and Mac has hit a home run. However I just started the book. Perhaps I may give it a lower rating.
     
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    Hilarious! I don't review books on amazon. If I bought your book it is review enough that I'm willing to spend money to read what you wrote.
     
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    I'd say he's doing just fine without the help of the good folk here on BB.
     
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    How honest is it to give a "good" review, even if you don't think the book was good? Or for that matter, even a bad one, if you haven't even read the book? My guess is, many of those charismatics didn't read it either, but know what it's about and have canned responses from pastors and charismatic activists they all typed in.

    Who cares? As TH said, he's not going to be hurt by a few bad reviews.
     
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    Lord willing I may get his book and give it a read. The onslaught he will receive for this work is to be expected. It's no different than writing against KJVO/Riplinger et al as those blinded to that system will come in droves to diminish the truth against their fable.
     
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    Its a bad book, it deserves bad reviews.
     
  9. Yeshua1

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    Is that due to Him having the truth about the so called new revealtions from the "New Charasmatics?"

    Same old "Charasmatic Chaos!"
     
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    Um, a book can be accurate and still bad
     
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    I would imagine John doesn't worry too much about Amazon ratings of his books. Especially when anyone can log on an rate. I'd even bet he doesn't even look.:type:
     
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    is this an update of his Charasmatic Chaos then?

    he will get blasted by the "new Charasmatics", as they will keep their false teachings and doctrines when exposed to the light of bible from him!
     
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    Think the only 'rating; that counts to Him is the one Jesus gives the Book!
     
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    AMEN :thumbsup::thumbsup:
     
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    I don't think it's an official update, but people hated that book as well.

    I've watched the series on Youtube, and if anyone has a problem with these videos they have a problem with Scripture. :)

    I'm certain his book is just as accurate and just as good if not better tan the conference (unless the book IS the conference written out). I know some people talk bad about John MacArthur's demeanor, but I've listened to him for years and have never had a problem with him in that regard.
     
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    Is it because you have been convicted of your ways?
     
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    Do you remembe the uproar when Dave Hunt did his Seduction of Christianity?

    Don't agree with him at all regarding views on calvinism, but thought hit the charasmatic mess right on!

    Dr macarthur does come across at times as being somewhat smug/arrogant, but would see look at what he teaches, as much of that is spot on!

    I like him, as he is like me, another fellow Calvinistic Dispy!
     
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    many charasmatics would be offended if Jesus tried to correct their erronous theology!
     
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    Not a fan of Hunt by any means, but it is not hard for most to see the error of charismatic theology. But those of his ilk need to take this a step further and own up a bit as well -- much of the false doctrine of the charismatics stems from the arm/ant-cal theology that we let God save us, and that He cannot unless we allow Him to.

    Do you have something specific to share to show MacArthur as being smug/arrogant? I'd like to see it for myself.
     
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    hahaha...you don't know me. Actually I don't speak in tongues or pray in a private language.

    However, I do believe God still uses miraculous gifts in the advancement of His Gospel throughout the world. Why? Because I've seen them used. I've seen a woman start speaking in a foreign language unknown to her that minister to a man across the room that nobody knew. I've seen a young man with an open, bleeding ulcer on his leg get prayed for and by the time the prayer ended the wound was cleaned, healed, and gone. I've seen and participated in exorcisms where demons have been identified and cast out in Christ's name. I've seen the miraculous gifts that MacArthur mocks used in the advance of the Kingdom of God.

    I stand against the unbiblical use of miraculous gifts and have engaged in open debate with proponents of the prosperity gospel who steal from the poor. When there is time to teach on the giftings that are evident in the NT, I do so from a biblical theology.

    My theology has no need of conviction nor does my ministry. It is shameful language to suggest it does.

    But if you want to have a grand and open debate about the reality of the continuation of the miraculous gifts in the advance of the Kingdom of God than let us do that here and now. Show me how the miraculous gifts have ended and I'll show you how they are perpetuated in the world.

    Put your theology of condemnation against my theology of cautious continuation and let's see who stands on better footing.

    I've listened to Dr MacArthur for years and read many of his books. His ministry with worth respecting and I've been edified by his ministry. His books are usually quite good. This one is trash. It condemns well meaning and well grounded people in order to attempt to offer a corrective that should be handled differently. His entire approach is unChrist-like. He stands in a place of open judgment and offers thin arguments against the primary way the Gospel is being perpetuated in many communities throughout the world. Certainly there are abuses in the Pentecostal and Charismatic churches. They should be corrected. But blanket condemnation of good men and women of God is not the calling of a minister.

    So bring your arguments here and now and put them against mine. Refute my theology and experiences of seeing the miraculous happen in the midst of God's people and for the advancement of His kingdom.

    Bring your arguments and let us weigh this invective against Christians brothers and sisters.
     
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