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Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by HAMel, Jan 2, 2014.

  1. HAMel

    HAMel Well-Known Member
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    Obama, in his State of the Union address Feb. 12, announced a two-ocean globalist free-trade agenda:

    “To boost American exports, support American jobs, and level the playing field in the growing markets of Asia, we intend to complete negotiations on a Trans-Pacific Partnership,” he said. “And tonight, I am announcing that we will launch talks on a comprehensive Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership with the European Union – because trade that is free and fair across the Atlantic supports millions of good-paying American jobs.”

    The 10 nations involved in the TPP include Australia, Brunei, Canada, Chile, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore and Vietnam.

    Revelation 13
    The dragon stood on the shore of the sea. And I saw a beast coming out of the sea. It had ten horns and seven heads, with ten crowns on its horns, and on each head a blasphemous name.

    http://www.wnd.com/2014/01/uprising-as-obama-plans-to-skirt-congress-on-new-world-order/
     
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    Shouldn't this be in "News/Current Affairs"??

    What's it got to do with Baptist discussions?
     
  3. HAMel

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    Shouldn't this be in "News/Current Affairs"??

    What's it got to do with Baptist discussions?


    ...lumps in your grits this morning?

    I was under the impression that most Baptist folks believed in the second coming and those issues pointing directly to that event happening.

    If not, so be it. Ask the moderators to just completely delete the entire post. :thumbsup:

    **MOVED TO THEOLOGY FORUM**
     
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    Ten nations plus the United States = Eleven nations. Your math fails.

    So does your post.
     
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    It's actually 12: U.S., Canada and about 10 countries in the Asia-Pacific region including Australia, Brunei, Chile, Japan, Malaysia, Mexico, New Zealand, Peru, Singapore and Vietnam.
    In spades. And it's still in the wrong forum. It's a news story. Not biblical prophecy.
     
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    Back in the 70's it was the 10 nation European Union that was going to be the ten-headed beast from the sea. Then other nations joined ruining the math. So end-timers started looking for another 10 nation bloc that would satisfy the math. HAMel's post is either another attempt or a tongue-in-cheek attempt at humor.
     
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    If it's a serious post, it goes about the search in the wrong way. It isn't ten nations. It's ten regions. Each region could have any number of nations in it. Ah, well ...
     
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    If you guys were "pan-millenialists", you wouldn't get too worked up about it. :)
     
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    I'm pre-, as you know, but I don't get too worked up about anything anyway. Other than people who misrepresent what I say, that is. :thumbsup: Thankfully, you and I don't have to worry about that. LOL
     
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    :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbs:

    I was at one time Pre-.....but now I really don't know what I am, that's why I settled on "pan". Does one thinking that the "rapture" and "second coming" are the same event....qualify as having some preterism?
     
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    Not unless you think they've already happened, no. :laugh:
     
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    Thanks, I really do not understand all the various eschatalogical positions and nuances.
     
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    Thanks for posting this, HAMel. Whether it is prophecy or not, in the right forum or not, I still found it interesting.:thumbsup:
     
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    From what you asked, I'd say you were a post-trib (rapture) pre-millennialist. :laugh:
     
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    As another poster said, the United States would be eleven. If you can make the statues on Easter Island come to life, then you can declare it a nation and that would be twelve. Of course, you need to remember Peru is on the Pacific, along with the Philippines, Korea, El Salvador, and Panama. Now you have seventeen. That equals the number of horns and heads together.

    If you add the 17 and 17 together, that makes 34. Since there are twelve disciples, 34 take away twelve leaves 22. The twelve stands for the month Christ will return. Since there are three parts of the Trinity, that is the day Christ will return. 22-3=19, which says Christ will return on December 3, 2019. See how simple that was.
     
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    Wow! I think you just founded a cult!! :laugh:
     
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    Too often those with an eschatological agenda end up looking under every rock and shrub to find justification for their view that the world will end soon.

    Ironically, for every generation since Jesus' day, they've all ended up missing the point.

    This is the danger of hyped up eschatology.
     
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    But...you forgot to factor in acrostic algebra......
     
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