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Please, let them take all the 'undue sermón time' that they can, cause later on someone will have to take undo sermón time fixing what they say later.

 

We still call military meal time "mess".

 

We alrready have done that, see Nkjv/nasb/esv/Hcsb/Niv etc!

 

Some modern English translations are easier to understand but less accurate though for the most part.

 

Unfortunately this does tend to dumb down the message.
a good example is John 3:16.

Most modern translations say "one and only son."

The KJV says "only begotten son"

there is a great difference in these 2 phrases.

One and only is more dumbed down and yes it is easier to understand, but it is not as accurate, in fact "one and only son" is not even doctrinally correct, the bible says as many as recieved him to them gave he power to become the sons of God. So Jesus is not God's one and only son, however he is God's only begotten son.

For example, When a Lamb gives birth it always gives birth to a lamb, or "begets" a lamb, a dog always begets a dog, and a cat always begets a cat.

Jesus is the only begotten son because God begets God, The word begotten really is helpful in showing the deity of Christ and shows his unique relationship to the father.

 

How about the upcoming Modern English version,most "complete/upfated KJV in history?"

 

If they actually update the KJV, without any CT bias, halelujah!

If they pretend to update, and work in NA/CT translations, then what do we need another NKJV for?

 

Jn 3:16
16 Porque de tal manera amó Dios al mundo, que ha dado á su Hijo unigénito, para que todo aquel que en él cree, no se pierda, mas tenga vida eterna.

Hmmmm. Guess a 3rd of the Earth's population get's only begotten in their Bible.

 

Dont forget this gem:
16. Epij shauendu su Kishemanito iu aki, ogionjimi giuenun iniu etu tetebinaua Kaoguisijin, aueguen dush getebueienimaguen jibnnatizisig, jiaië4 dush go iu kaki nik pimatiziuin.

 

They will be using same textual basis as the Nkjv, as the Nkjv used JUST what was available to the 1611 translators!

 

A modern English translation of the Byzantine Text would be the World English Bible (WEB).

Note, it differs from both the NKJV and the KJV, where they are based on corruptions.

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have eternal life. (WEB)

 

Or this great translation:
Chippewa
John 3:16
Apeech zhahwaindung sah Keshamune doo ewh ahkeh, ooge-oonje megewanun enewh atahtatabenahwa Kahoogwesejin,wagwain dush katapwayainemahgwain chebahnahdezesig, che ahyong dush goo ewh kahkenig pemahtezewin.

 

But the text does not use "Son" at all. It has a single word - Monogenes

Mono = one, only, single, alone, etc
Gene = kind, type, substance

One and Only is far more faithful to the original. And the only reason it seems dumbed down is that there has been an enormous betrayal of what "son" means in OT language

In Hebrews 11:17, Isaac was called Abraham's "monogene"
Go back to Genesis and look at what Isaac meant to Abraham, compared to Abraham's fear regarding Eliezer.

Abraham was worried that one form his house would be his HEIR, to which God promised that one would come from his loins

Abraham was commended for not withholding his "one and only"

Only by the church adopting a Greek understanding of "son" instead of the Hebrew understanding did this become a mess.

Has nothing to do with the translation, but the paradigm

 

I grew up KJVo, and have since become KJVp. Personally, I have no problem with an updated translation, as long as the translation is NOT a translation of a current version, but goes back to the "original" texts for the translation.

The thing (not necessarily "problem") is that if we update the language, we really need to do it on a schedule, say every generation, or every 20 years, or every whatever, as English is changing. That is one reason (hopefully not starting a debate) that I am KJVp. The old English is dead, and won't change. Once you understand it, you understand it.

Off Topic: so that we don't derail the thread, could someone pm me with their opinion on a Spanish (Mexican) translation? I am learning Mexican Spanish, and reading the Bible in Spanish I think would speed the process up.