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Is Iraq Now Obama's War?

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by righteousdude2, Jun 17, 2014.

  1. righteousdude2

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    President Obama's past statements about ISIS and al Qaeda.


    Obama is an incompetent fool. If any war is "his", we're in deep...trouble.
     
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    No. This belongs to Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Kofi Annan, Hans Blix, Al Gore, Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, George Bush, Tony Blair, Colin Powell, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, and the democrat and republican congress people who voted to ignore the constitution and invade Iraq, on behalf of the U.N..
     
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    I hope Afghanistan is watching closely to Iraq. The same thing will happen to them soon.
     
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    One hundred percent correct about Afghanistan will be lost next. It will be a bloodbath there, also.

    It is Obama's war against terror and he lost it back in the "Arab spring." He also lost to Russia with his "reset."
     
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    Reagan didn't know he was talking about Obama when he said:

    But he couldn't have been more right about him.

    What most of us don't really want to admit to ourselves is that this may have been what Obama wanted from the beginning. He certainly made all the right moves to make it happen. Could anyone possibly be so wrong so often unless they intended to be?
     
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    So your solution would have been to let Saddam kill a million of his own people, develop the WMDs Joe Wilson and the IAEA lied about him "not having," train terrorists to attack the U.S. and Europe, all the while being defiant and arrogant in claiming he did nothing to warrant an invasion of his "sovereign nation."

    Got it. Thanks. :thumbsup: :rolleyes:
     
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    I've done three Persian Gulf tours, I am a Navy Expeditionary Medal recipient. We should not have entangled ourselves in the U.N.'s problems.
     
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    I served 20 years, Vietnam, Grenada, Suez Crisis 1987 version, Panama, Desert Storm. I was a combat officer and helicopter pilot.

    I disagree.
    Saddam was our problem.
    Osama and the Taliban were our problems.

    They made themselves "our problem" by daring to engage in the encouragement, security, funding, training and use of terrorist warriors.
     
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    We should have known in 2003 the democrats could not be trusted to support the war they demanded.

    Thanx for your service.
     
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    And you, for yours, brother. God bless.
     
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    No, of course not. They only hold to an opinion or position as long as it is popularly and politically expedient.
    And you, for yours, brother. God bless.
     
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    We've known it since 1973.
     
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    As a Viet Nam vet ....

    .... I salute and applaud you for your honorable service to this country.

    You have every right to your opinion, BC, but, I believe the radical Islamc forces would have eventually took to the streets in Iraq one day or another, with or without or involvement.

    You are seeing the rise of a hitler like evil coming out of the middle East and one day or another, all of the world will have to band as one and fight this common enemy to it's end!

    The problem with Iraq was not invading it and ridding it of our one time puppet leader, but, not staying there long enough to guarantee its success. Japan and Germany are success stories, and it is because we still maintain an active presence in those nations!
     
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    Former Vice President Dick Cheney and his daughter Liz sat down with Megyn Kelly to talk about their joint column slamming President Obama on Iraq and a whole host of other foreign policy issues, but Kelly wasted no time in grilling Cheney on his role in the quagmire Iraq is in today.

    She opened the interview by referring to Cheney as “the man who helped lead us into Iraq in the first place,” and told Cheney, in response to his claim that rarely has a president been so wrong about so much, “Time and time again, history has proven that you got it wrong as well in Iraq, sir.”

    Kelly went down a laundry list of Dick Cheney quotes about Iraq that turned out to be monstrously wrong, but Cheney refuted all of that and kept focus on going after President Obama. He said the Obama administration “precipitated the current crisis” in Iraq, while Liz said they started their new group Alliance for a Strong America because “there’s a lot out there being said that’s frankly not true” where the Bush/Cheney administration is concerned.

    Watch the video below, via Fox News:

    http://www.infowars.com/megyn-kelly-confronts-dick-cheney-history-has-proven-you-were-wrong-on-iraq/

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3_EXqJ8f-0

    Comparing the US involvement in Japan and Germany to the Iraq invasion and occupation is a fallacy.

    The US went the constitutional (legal) path with Japan and Germany. The US chose the unconstitutional (illegal) path with Iraq. Lie and fear monger and make incredible claims in order to fulfill the hegemonic dreams of a handful of Machiavelli loving corporatist neocons aka the "crazies". Iraq was never a real threat to us. Japan and Germany were.
     
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