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Successes of Freedom From Religion

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Salty, Aug 8, 2014.

  1. Salty

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    It looks like a lot of these have to do with illegal proselytization in public schools. I have to agree with them that schools are funded by, and provided for, everyone. To use a captive audience of schoolchildren as targets to push ANY religious viewpoint is wrong. Would you like a Muslim teacher providing prayer rugs, having the kids face Mecca and leading the class in prayers to Allah?
     
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    depends on the quality of the rugs & then do I get to keep the rugs?:smilewinkgrin:
     
  5. Salty

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    and there is a lot of issues that are presented to a
    "Captive Audience" Sex Ed, Situation Ethics, Straightphobia, ect, ect, ect....

    MP, please answer this question. If a students asks a teacher a question about the Bible, should that teacher be allowed to answer?
     
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    Of course things are presented. That is what school is. What should never be done is to promote a religion to public school kids. That is within their parents' prerogative. Not the state's, not the district's, not the school's, and not the teacher's. The parents and theirs alone. A completely unbiased class on comparative religion, fine. Promoting and proselytizing...no way.

    As to your hypothetical question, it is unlikely to occur. Again, depends on the nature of the question. However if it does, do you want a teacher giving spiritual guidance? He or she should refer the student to their parent's or spiritual leader.
     
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    Salty, let's say you have a kid that does just that. The teacher answers according to his belief in the LDS church...that the Bible is secondary to the Book of Mormon, Doctrine & Covanents, and Pearl of Great Price. Would you be fine with that?
     
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    1) Not hypothetical
    2) Why should a teacher refer to a spiritual leader when the teacher was asked.
    3) Quote edited to conform to L.E.F.T.
    4) click on this link
     
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    How about answering my question about the Mormon teacher?
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    BTW, my position is the same as what has traditionally been the one held by the preponderance of Baptists...strict separation of church and state.
     
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    No surprise there. :rolleyes:
     
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    None at all. My position is consistent. If you want proselytization in schools, there are plenty of private Christian schools. Home schooling is also an option. What give you the right to demand YOUR beliefs be imposed on the children of others in a public school environment?
     
  13. Salty

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    Yes, if my son was to ask the teacher one-on-one - I would have no problem. Then I trust my son would come home and discuss it with me.

    Now the teacher giving instruction ( unless it is actually pertinent to the classroom discussion) is another story.
     
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    NEGATIVE! Schools are into way too many things they do not need to be involved in - and/or to much emphasis.
    Lets get back to the 3 R's.
     
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    And you are disagreeing with my quoted statement how?
     
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    I don't agree with all of FFR's agenda, but removing religion from public schools is a good thing.

    The only way I want religion in school is if it is the exact religion that I prescribe to. If it isn't, then I don't want any religion in school.
     
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