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  1. carpro

    carpro Well-Known Member
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    The howl of the mob: Race-based justice


    Among the demands of the “protesters” in Ferguson is that the investigation and prosecution of police officer Darren Wilson be taken away from St. Louis County Prosecutor Robert McCulloch.

    McCulloch is biased, it is said. How so? In 1964, his father, a St. Louis police officer, was shot to death by an African-American.

    Moreover, McCulloch comes from a family of cops. He wanted to be a police officer himself, but when cancer cost him a leg as a kid, he became a prosecutor.

    Yet, in 23 years, McCulloch has convicted many cops of many crimes, and has said that if Gov. Jay Nixon orders him off this case, he will comply. Meanwhile, he is moving ahead with the grand jury

    SNIP

    If there is any pubic official who should recuse himself from any role in this investigation, it is not Robert McCulloch but Eric Holder.

    Holder has a lifelong, almost Sharpton-like, obsession with race.

    Three weeks in office, he declared America a “nation of cowards” for refusing to discuss race more. Arriving in St. Louis, he declared, “I am the attorney general of the United States. But I am also a black man.”

    Query. What is the chief law enforcement officer of the United States, who is heading up the federal investigation of the shooting of a black teenager by a white cop, doing declaring his racial solidarity?


    Read more at http://www.wnd.com/2014/08/the-howl-of-the-mob-race-based-justice/#fbb6WeZRdiUxqcfb.99
     
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    He's not doing anything that white people haven't done. Don't act like this is new behavior.
     
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    I agree! Holder is a disgrace to the human race but so are a lit of white people!
     
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    He is the Attorney General of the United States. He needs to act like it. It is entirely new behavior for anyone in his position.

    He is at the scene of a possible crime telling everyone who will listen how he has suffered at the hands of white cops. and reminding people, as if they need it, that he is black.

    The message he is sending says clearly that he has an axe to grind and he's going to grind it on a certain white police officer, regardless of the facts.

    I defy anyone to name another attorney general that has acted in such a manner. Showing a clear bias against the possible defendant before charges are even filed indicates he cannot, and will not act in the professional detached manner required of anyone in his position. That doesn't describe any other legal professional on the scene. White or black.

    He's a disgrace.
     
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  5. Zaac

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    OldRegular, I think it's just a lot of people PERIOD. The human race seems to collectively be moving towards an explosion that nothing short of the hand of Jesus can rescue it.
     
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    I have some black colleagues who often have said in the past that a lot of white people just can't comprehend that everything isn't as rosy as they like to think simply because their world is covered in a rosy hue.

    A lot of Blacks have had a different experience. Holder is a black man. The only people who have a problem with him acknowledging that are the ones who are in the majority and use to seeing a certain thing because the majority has set the "standard".

    He's the Attorney General but he's also a black man. And acknowledging that goes a long way in empowering other Blacks. Don't tell me that you have a problem with that?

    There is a certain expectation when you're the first anything. A lot of folks who have always been the majority EVERYTHING don't understand why he mentions it because the majority never had to. But why would they as it was the "standard".

    He's the Attorney General. A black man sent into a situation with Black vs White seemingly at its core. It's a double edged-sword. On the one hand, it can be viewed by some to believe he'll be biased toward the white officer. On the other hand, his comment could be construed to imply that because he too is a black man that he understands their POV and will do what needs to be done to see justice served. Not Black or White justice but justice as a lot of folks in the area don't seem to believe would happen if it was left up to the Ferguson authorities.

    He'll hopefully do his job as the AG, but also be an encouragement as a black man.

    What's wrong with that? Again, I guess it's a POV thing. You perceive it one way. Others perceive it as, having experienced it, he perhaps has a better POV upon which to make sure that either the officer be exonerated for doing things right or indicted for doing things wrong.

    Again, POV. That's what YOU see. That's not what others see. Some might say that you have an axe to grind against black people period. You might just say you're tired of their complaining.

    I defy anyone to present another black US Attorney General. You're jumping to conclusions because the man is black and acknowledged it.

    Well his boss is Barack Obama. So that would be consistent with your feelings for his boss.
     
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    And now you say he is.

    Get back to me when you open your eyes and really make up your mind. Your kneejerk reaction posts are causing you a real consistency problem.
     
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    As the attorney general, it is imperative that he do his job without regard to anyone's skin color.

    He has shown he cannot do that. He needs to go back to Washington and leave the case to his subordinates, who hopefully aren't as racially biased as he is.
     
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    And they illustrated that most racism today isn't from whites. Black people are far more racist than whites in today's world.
     
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    What they illustrated is that from their perspective there's lots of racism but Whites tend to not think so because you're no longer seeing pictures of white people dragging black people in the streets.

    Whereas Whites say Blacks are far more racist today than Blacks because so much progress has been made, Blacks will tell you that a lot of the same racism still exists. It's just gone underground and taken on another form.

    For instance, you may not as a white person, be able to drag a black person behind a car. But you can push to get laws passed that makes him more likely to be incarcerated than a white person.

    Or maybe you're a college frat who thinks it would be a good idea to hold a black face party.

    Or maybe you're in NYC trying to get a taxi, and the taxi driver bypasses a row of black people trying to get a taxi and goes to you, the white patron.

    It's interesting that the ones in the majority seem to think that race relations have/had gotten so good, but the majority of the folks who are in the minority disagree.
     
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    Or maybe you can try being a black student in a 80-90% white school versus a white student in a 80-90% black school. Guess which one gets bullied and harassed more?
     
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    I don't know. Are you speaking from a personal situation? College aged kids can tend to be snobbish and elitist no matter what their skin color.

    I've seen white students in college who have obviously thought themselves better than their counterparts who weren't in college. I've seen Blacks in college who have obviously thought themselves better than their counterparts who weren't in college.

    I've done work at the HBCUs in Atlanta as well as the majority white campuses in the area. And from a Christian perspective have found that at either one, you've got folks who are just mean and nasty and act the way that they act. It's nothing new.

    But the people who take the time to get to know the person in the minority, generally end up making lifelong friendships.
     
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    My high school was integrated in 1965. 1100 white students. 100 black students. Immediate acceptance of blacks in all school activities.

    Zero racial incidents for the next 2 years I was there.

    That was the case in thousands of school integrations across the south and in Texas.

    Any racial discrimination is bad, but it wasn't as bad as the current generation believes.
     
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    I agree with you. My point was if you go to a majority black high school you will see the whites constantly harassed and bullied. The same does not happen in majority white schools.
     
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    Depends on what school you go to and whose perspective its from too.
     
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    Yeah. I got it.

    And it may be true. Probably is, but I have no experience with it so can't testify that it is. But it seems to fit the pattern of reverse discrimination that has been in vogue for the past few years.

    Black on white violence has been on the increase for a number of years.

    Excusing it (as Eric Holder does) pretending it doesn't exist, ignoring it and covering it up ( as the media tends to do), won't make it go away.
     
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    I agree with you. The black students that harass the white students have a perspective that it's their right to act obnoxious since they are "owed" something.
     
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    Meanwhile, you go to the majority white school in ,say, Bel Air and the white students of privilege think they have the right to act obnoxious because their parents are wealthy and they "own" everything.

    So again, it depends on where you are and the perspective.
     
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    Here's the difference..white students in Bel Air act snooty and obnoxious to everyone. Black students in majority black school physically and verbally assault the white minority in the school. Imagine prison...that's the culture in most predominately black high schools.
     
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    In prison, if one is small of stature, their chances of being sexually assaulted in prison are extremely high, regardless of race. But if they are white, their chances are just about 100%..

    Of the ethnic groups in prison, blacks are probably the most abusive to other races when given the opportunity and the numbers favor them.

    Hispanics take care of their own, but usually don't initiate conflict with other races. But they react violently and in groups when one of theirs is attacked or abused.

    With the power of the white supremacist groups on the wane, largely due to notoriety and being outnumbered, whites are pretty much at the bottom of the pecking order in prison.

    The struggle for power in prisons is between blacks and Hispanics.

    In prison, everything, and I do mean everything, is about race. Especially to blacks and hispanics.

    Is that what you mean?
     
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