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Third Way or Option: Will the Baptist Denomination take it?

Discussion in 'General Baptist Discussions' started by righteousdude2, Oct 21, 2014.

  1. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
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    Here is a great article on the ongoing discussion of how the church will or will not reply to be same-sex anything within their ranks.

    http://www.christiantoday.com/artic...ld.a.middle.ground.on.homosexuality/37976.htm

    Do you see the Baptist church as a whole, opting for the third way? Or will they remain true and stay the course by saying, " or " to permit same-gender individuals in their pews?

    The problem is no off the agenda for this year, but believe me each year it will knock at the door of all Baptist yearly conventions, and move from asking to come in, to DEMANDING they be let in!

    The problem is not about to go away! It is pesky and relentless, and it will be interesting to see if the Baptist church as a whole can stand for the long term!

    What do you say about my observation of the problem not going away anytime soon in the future?
     
  2. blessedwife318

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    Well so far the SBC has held the line. They have made it clear that there is no third way and ironically even that check prices that there is no third way by it splitting over those who take a stand on homosexuality and those who refuse to take a stand. I think this issue will help purify the church as we will see who will take a stand and who will embrace sin.
     
  3. matt wade

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    There is no such thing a Baptist denomination. Where there such a thing I, and I am sure many others, would not be a part of it.
     
  4. The Biblicist

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    The term "Baptist" is a very large generic umbrella term that covers just about anyone with any belief system just as long as they immerse believers. So, some kind of "Baptist" may embrace same sex marriage.

    However, conservative "Baptist" type churches are not even near considering it anything other than sin, and the type of sin that as it increases in the world indicates the coming of Christ is nearer who will pour out his wrath upon such.
     
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    How are Baptists, by definition, not a denomination? (I don't understand how the designation "Baptist" could hold any meaning unless it is descriptive of certain distinctive beliefs).
     
  6. matt wade

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    A denomination doesn't just define beliefs, it's means there is a organizational structure in place as well.
     
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    Thanks, I understand where you are coming from now. I disagree as I think a denomination is a religious group united by a common belief or practice (not a common organizational structure). But it is a disagreement of definitions (we could very well have the same understanding of what it means to be "Baptist").
     
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    Well put. It is good to know that there are some who will remain on the narrow path, and not exit to the freeway to hell.
     
  9. HAMel

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    rd2..., as I read your post I understood it to be making reference to churches in general and..., to specifically the Baptist..., as to their acceptance of the homosexual and his/her life style?

    How come the argument turned to whether the Baptist are considered a denomination?

    Back to those folks..., as I read the Word it does appear to me that "...God GAVE them up to a..." Can you just imagine what it's like to be GIVEN up on by God? That would translate to me these folks will never come back.

    ...course, ya' all understand I ain't got no Yale University Degree in Bible 'cernment but can it be considered that being "given up on " translates to being "Given up on"? :laugh::thumbsup::tongue3:
     
  10. InTheLight

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    I say if the Rapture happens it most definitely is going away!

    Otherwise, yes, there will always be gays testing the resolve of Baptists, or any denomination, for acceptance.
     
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  12. matt wade

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    and you should look at the full definitions on the page you referenced:

    "a religious organization whose congregations are united in their adherence to its beliefs and practices"

    Would you say the "Baptist Denomination" is united in their adherence to its beliefs and practices?
     
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    Look at your own quote, I don't see organizational structure anywhere in the definition.

    There are 100s of Baptist Denominations, but what makes a baptist a baptist is that they believe in baptism upon a statement of faith in Christ. It has nothing to do with structure. Any baptist church that doesn't hold to baptism upon statement of faith is NOT a baptist church, regardless of what else they believe.
     
  14. matt wade

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    Yes, there are some Baptist Denominations. On this we agree. I would say the SBC is a denomination (though many would disagree with me on that). My point is that there isn't a single baptist denomination.
     
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    It might "purify" the church as far as homosexuality goes. But it certainly won't delineate between who embraces sin and who doesn't.

    Churches have embraced a lot more sin than just the homosexual offense. This one is just high profile.

    And how on earth did we get to a third way?
     
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    Did the SBC have a choice but to remove the church?If that church wants to teach in contradiction to God's word and has been asked to correct that and chooses to not correct it, what other option does the SBC have but to say "see ya" as they did?
     
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    I don't know any local Baptist church/pasor in my area that has embraced and taught that sinning is now acceptable behaviour, do you?

    And think time is soon upon us that every church will have to decide wether to obey men and accept gay Agenda, or else obey God!
     
  18. Zaac

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    How many churches in your area don't say anything about the gossiping? backbiting? the immodesty? the gluttony? The refusing to honor and respect those God has placed in authority over them?

    Sure seems to be a lot of these things going on in the church to the point that it certainly looks like it has been embraced as has the normalization of heterosexual fornication and lust in society.
     
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    It's all semantics, and I wouldn't argue too much about it. But the 3rd definition " a general name for a category" definitely means that there is a generic "Baptist" denomination. I mean, when the average person asks what denomination I am, my response is "Baptist". Then if they ask what kind, I'll go deeper.
     
  20. Yeshua1

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    Again, they would still label all of that as being a sin, but agree with you that e need to make sure that none of us are still active in those things!

    But Homosexual sinning is getting big time redefined, agreed?
     
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