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Featured Issa: Cdc chief made many statements that simply aren't true

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Revmitchell, Oct 24, 2014.

  1. Revmitchell

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    Friday at a House Oversight Committee Ebola Response hearing, Rep. Darrell Issa (R-CA) said, "The head of CDC, supposed to be the expert, and he's made statements that simply aren't true."
    Issa said, "When the head of the CDC says you can't get it from somebody on the bus next to you, that is just not true. When the head of the CDC says we know what we are doing, but in fact health care professionals wearing what they thought was appropriate protective material got it and that means it's wrong. When the head of the CDC goes on television and says sometimes less protection is better and then has to reverse the protocol so we no longer have nurses who had their necks exposed. That was wrong."

    http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-...f-Made-Many-Statements-That-Simply-Arent-True
     
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    How are you getting it from someone sitting next to you on the bus?
     
  3. InTheLight

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    I predict you will not get a response from RevMitch on this question.
     
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    Ebola is passed from person to person in bodily fluids. A sneeze or a cough could spray ebola laced droplets which are aspirated by the person on the bus, or the droplets could land on an open sore or even chapped skin. That's why protocols call for complete coverage of all exposed skin for medical workers treating an ebola patient.
     
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    The head of CDC is a geneticist and is a puppet of the White House in that he cannot say anything that they do now want him to say.

    The Democrats do not want to close down travel from West Africa to the USA because they intend to extend amnesty to illegal aliens about December 25 and the fact that terrorists and contagious people walk into the USA does not fit with the Democrat plan. When Obama is done with amnesty, all of these people will be American citizens and registered Democrat voters.

    Meanwhile people who are not afraid to sit next to an Ebola patient are climbing on planes and heading to West Africa....
     
  6. Revmitchell

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    Why would I answer that question? I did not make the statement. Some people have a difficult time determining the difference between the person being quoted in ops and the person that posted the op.
     
  7. InTheLight

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    Ah, I see. The old "I'm not responsible for what I post" excuse.
     
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    Stop promiscuity in the world and see what happens. It might even help lower the population.

    God told the human kind to be fruitful and multiply.

    We seem to have gotten ourselves in a ditch for sure. Not a new situation.

    The remedy is still Jesus--Him crucified.

    The bureaucrats have been misleading the leaders behind the scenes since our founding fathers signed The Declaration of Independence.

    Even so, come, Lord Jesus.

    Bro. James
     
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    Except by the time a person has a high enough viral load to spread it like this, they are deathly ill. Remember that those who lived in the home of the ebola patient - even when he became ill - who shared doorknobs, towels, faucet handles, beds and everything NEVER came down with the virus. The chance of getting it by sitting next to someone who is just beginning to become symptomatic is so extremely low that it's about zero. Even the ER docs and nurses who cared for him when they said he had the flu didn't become ill.
     
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    The question was: "How are you getting it from someone sitting next to you on the bus?"

    I answered it.
     
  11. Revmitchell

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    Where did you ever get the idea that the person that posts something must agree with everything in the post. Where did this supposed "responsibility: come from? And who was it that decided it was necessary?
     
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    I'll let the readers of this thread decide for themselves.
     
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    But again, you are not getting it from sitting next to a person on a bus who has no symptoms and if they do have symptoms, when the viral load is large enough to infect others, they are too ill to be riding a bus. So I say busses are pretty safe. ;)
     
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    Problem:Many Ebola symptoms can be masked by OTC drugs.

    This even the CDC admitted that folks coming from w. Africa can take Acetaminophen and other OTC drugs, etc; present a temperature within the norm, stop the body aches and malaise, bind the lower GI, feel well enough to travel, etc. Then get off the plane and take a cab or public transportation, the virus abounding.

    The most effective test is a blood test and even that can show a negative for an Ebola patient (3 negatives are required). Also it is expensive and time consuming.

    The best policy is to stop them from coming here or quarantine them for 21+ days.

    We should take a lesson from Nigeria who, by using very strict containment practices, stopped the plague in Nigeria in 42 days and has now been declared Ebola free.

    http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/10/141024-ebola-nigeria-outbreak-lessons-virus-health/


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    The question was not "how safe are busses." The question was "How are you getting it from someone sitting next to you on the bus?"

    I answered it.

    If you want to ask another question, go ahead. But don't try to claim my answer is wrong by changing the question.
     
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    But what I'm saying is that you are not getting it from sitting next to someone on the bus.
     
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    The question was, "How are you getting it from someone sitting next to you on the bus?"

    How? How would that happen? What would be the vector? How?

    Got it now?
     
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    Tell it to the two nurses.
     
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    You mean the ones who were actually handling his body fluids when he had his highest viral load?

    How about I tell that to his wife or his children who lived in the same house with him and never got it. Or the doctors in the ER who misdiagnosed him after actually touching him and didn't get it?
     
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