Featured What is the Great Commission?

Let's just go ahead and say it. This thread is really about justifying what so many have told you is wrong.


anywayyy......

What did Paul say:

What did Paul do here? He developed relationships with people in order to win them to Christ. That is what he was doing when he said "I became", when he said "I became all things to all people". Becoming all things is building relationships. You have not become anything to anyone except a pain in the back side.


Also, The Great Commission does not begin and end with simply telling someone the gospel. The act of making disciples entails much more than that. The Great Commission is all about making disciples not just believers. Making disciples means building relationships, being intimate, building trust and credibility, teaching way beyond just a salvation message, and it means taking responsibility for the person the Lord saved through your testimony of Jesus finished work on the cross.

The Great Commission does not just say to tell the salvation story, it says make disciples. What you are doing is not the Great Commission at all. It does not even resemble anything like it. You just go around beating people up with the Bible and apparently making threats.

The fact is you need to withdraw from any of your activities until you have been trained and discipled yourself. You are just making a mess.

 

I see you don't like the most clear-cut broadest explanation of the Great Commission given in the Word. Any reason for that?
Did it occur to you that before one can actually "disciple" a person they must build a relationship with that person first?

 

As God used three different men to report what Jesus said about the great commission and how evangelism is done, so today He can use us all in different ways. You feel God is using you to street preach and proclaim the Gospel. I feel God wants me to build relationships with those I come in contact with.

Just a note it was Luke who said to repent....and Mark said those who believe will handle snakes, speak in tongues and drink poison w/o harm. I'm sure you don't suggest we do that do you....:laugh:

 

I don't believe Mark wrote that at all --another hand added verses 9-20. In some manuscripts another penman wrote less than 12 additional verses to Mark 16. But that is a departure from the theme of this thread. Sorry.

 

Do you even know what the context of those passages are? There is nothing there that contradicts anything I have said. By the way when did you last cast out a demon? When did you last pick up serpents and drink deadly poison. I mean if you are going to quote a passage then include it all. Don't just cherry pick it to fit your presupposition. So I will stress this question, do you know the context of the passages you quoted?

What I do know is that you do not have the ability to deal with the passages I have shown you. Ray Comfort would not approve of your method nor of your attitude. If you want to be a "Way of the Master Evangelist" instead of a biblical one then by all means go ahead.

 

Anyone know what it means to make disciples?

 

That did not answer my question. Do you know what the context is of any of those verses you quoted?

Also why do you avoid Matthew 28:19-20?

 

The title of this thread is "What is the Great Commission"? That is the title you yourself gave it. I have explained it to you and have given clear scripture. You now, in the quote above, have acknowledged that you understand what I have said and in fact agree with it....but.......it is too hard for you.

I guess the implication is that because it is too hard for you, you feel you have the choice to ignore part of the great commission and only engage in the part that you like.

Now what you need to understand is that by leaving out part of the Great Commission you are like someone who tries to make it out into busy traffic only to realize that you should not have darted out there yet. You just make a big mess.

You need to slow down, do all of it or none of it. Its like trying to preach repentance without grace, its like trying to preach hell without heaven. You are being one sided and heavy handed.

 

That a boy, good job! You need to know that building trust and relationships takes time and may take months. Slow down let things simmer, get to be friends.

 

Yet you have said you know of no one that has come to Christ through your efforts so how can you say you are gifted?

 

Okay, now I'm confused.

If the ending of Mark is NOT original but an insertion ... Mark 16:15 is part of that insertion ... but Mark 16:15 is very biblical ... well, by jiminey, what exactly am I supposed to believe here?

 

There are a number of additions to the original text that are indeed biblical, such as Mark 16:15 --but not penned by the author.