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Did I mention belief or the Gospel. I will remind you what you said in the OP!

Did you mention belief in the Gospel? No! You mentioned belief in TULIP/Calvinism!

Now PLEASE read carefully your OP and what I posted! If you still have a problem I will try to help.

 

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The Truths of TULIP, what each of those points teach from the scripture sets forth the Gospel of God's Grace, so much so, if you reject the Truths of TULIP you are rejecting the Truths that are Representative of The Gospel of the Grace of God, you can dismiss it as calvinism all you like, you are still being dismissive of the Gospel ! Acts 20:24

24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.

Now if you reject the Total inability of the natural man spiritually to do anything good towards God in a spiritual sense, you dont believe the Gospel of God's Grace !

If you reject Unconditional Election of Grace of some of mankind, you reject the Gospel of God's Grace !

If you dont believe in the Limited and Particular Atoning Death of Christ only for His Church the Sheep, you reject the Gospel of God's Grace !

If you dont believe in the Sovereign effectual Call of the Spirit unto the Elect only, you reject the Gospel of God's Grace !

If you dont believe in the Preserving Power of God unto the end of all for whom Christ died, you reject the Gospel of God's Grace. All these Truths are Taught in scripture, if you dont believe just one of them, you dont believe the Gospel of God's Grace, I dont care how you dismiss it as only calvinism, that goes for you and anyone else reading these words !

 

If we don't believe in that - it is because we believe the Bible "instead"

Instead of "limited Gospel" we have an unlimited atoning sacrifice "For OUR sins and not for OUR sins only but for the sins of the WHOLE World" 1 John 2

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“God sent His Son to be the Savior of the WORLD” 1John 4:14[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Acts 17[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]24 [/FONT][FONT=&quot]The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands;[/FONT][FONT=&quot] 25 nor is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all people life and breath and all things; 26 and He made from one man every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times and the boundaries of their habitation, 27 that they would seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us; 28 for in Him we live and move and exist, as even some of your own poets have said, ‘For we also are His children.’ 29 Being then the children of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man. 30 Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, 31 because He has fixed a day in which He will judge the world in righteousness through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men by raising Him from the dead.”[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]1 Tim 2[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3 [/FONT][FONT=&quot]This is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior,[/FONT][FONT=&quot] 4 who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. 5 For there is one God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus, 6 who gave Himself as a ransom for all,[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]2 Pet 3[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]9 [/FONT][FONT=&quot]The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]1 John 2[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Jesus Christ “is the Atoning Sacrifice for OUR sins and NOT for OUR sins only but for the sins of the WHOLE WORLD” [/FONT]

 

The "tiny gospel" model where God's gospel goes only to the "FEW" of Matt 7

You don't understand the Bible doctrine on Atoning Sacrifice 1John 2:2.


Only in the LARGE Gospel model is there room for God's Lament.

 

The Truths of Tulip, represent nothing but the Gospel of God's Grace in Christ ! Rejecting them is rejected what scripture reveals !

 

It's foolish and false to proclaim that all without exception have had their sins atoned for and God propitated on their behalf when many are condemned already John 3:18 and under God's wrath John 3:36 !

 

That is a consistent and logical Calvinist response.

 

Until you understand the Bible definition of "Atoning Sacrifice" -

If you get that wrong -- everything else is nonsense and self-conflicted.

It is a key issue at the core of the difference between Calvinism and the Bible.

Once you get that right you will understand how it is that God can have unlimited atoning Sacrifice AND a true limited Atonement. #67

Let your eyes be open to Bible truth - notice how that entire mountain of Bible problems you face vanish once this simple Bible doctrine is accepted rather than the man-made tradition of Calvinism.

 

It's inconsistent to say all without exception have had their sins propitated by Christ 1 John 2:2 and yet they are under God's wrath at the same time Jn 3:36 !

 

Until you read the actual Bible on that subject.

 

[quote name="BobRyan" post=2182941]Until you understand the Bible definition of "Atoning Sacrifice" - <br />
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If you get that wrong -- everything else is nonsense and self-conflicted. <br />
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It is a key issue at the core of the difference between Calvinism and the Bible.<br />
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Once you get that right you will understand how it is that God can have unlimited atoning Sacrifice AND a true limited Atonement. #<b>67</b><br />
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Let your eyes be open to Bible truth - notice how that entire mountain of Bible problems you face vanish once this simple Bible doctrine is accepted rather than the man-made tradition of Calvinism.[/QUOTE]

It's inconsistent to say all without exception have had their sins propitated by Christ 1 John 2:2 and yet they are under God's wrath at the same time Jn 3:36 !<br/>

 

Until you understand that this is in fact the "Atoning Sacrifice" of "the Day of Atonement" - as we see in Lev 16. And that the entire process of "Atonement" as GOD describes it - includes BOTH Christ's work as our "Atoning Sacrifice" AND Christ's work as our High Priest.

The very thing Calvinism fears - because it allows for an UNLIMITED Atoning Sacrifice at the cross - with a LIMITED Atonement result for just the saved -- which is Arminian doctrine not Calvinist.

Thus the lost are under judgment and condemnation until they accept God's Gospel solution.

WERE you a child of wrath as Paul said HE was at one time??

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3 among whom also we all once conducted ourselves in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the others.

Were you "by nature a child of wrath" before you were saved in real life? on this actual earth? or is Paul simply "wrong"??

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in Christ,

Bob

 

At this point you should "notice" that at every turn the Bible proclaims the Arminian Gospel solution -- especially when it comes to Atonement.j

Why continue your constant uphill battle against the scripture to defend the man-made traditions of Calvinism only to discover time after time the very point where you thought Calvinism would stand - is where it falls.

All your problems with the bible would vanish if you would just accept the Bible model of free will.

 

I did not read the sermon, assumed it was from a source, but have no intention of reading it I read your introductory comments and I commented on your introductory comments!

 

It's inconsistent to say all without exception have had their sins propitated by Christ 1 John 2:2 When many are under God's Wrath Jn 3:36

36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.

God has no wrath against them in 1 Jn 2:2 because His Wrath has been appeased by Christ !