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Eyewitnesses: The Baltimore Riots Didn't Start the Way You Think

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Crabtownboy, Apr 29, 2015.

  1. Crabtownboy

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    Seems the police wanted disturbance. Maybe they thought it would take the heat off them.

     
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    Doesn't surprise me CTB. It is consistent with privilege. It creates the problem and then complains that there is a problem.
     
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    Why exactly caused them to riot? Was there some sort of mind control that forced them to throw bricks, burn down buildings, and attack people?
     
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    Guess we'd have to be a resident of that area of Baltimore to know for sure. But considering the Freddy Gray situation and the things that they say have happened there, it does make it look like the police were trying to instigate an encounter so that it could justify it's use of brutality.

    What possible reason, and I'm sure they will come up with some lame one, could the police have for making sure that the demographic who were planning to "purge" were all corralled to the same place where riot-gear ladened police officers would be waiting?
     
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    They were planning to purge now? I thought these were innocent kids that just got stuck there because the buses were shut down? Now you are telling me they planning to do violence? You can't have it both ways.
     
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    According to Twitter, high schoolers, it didn't say what high schoolers, were supposed to be planning this purge. They didn't say where.

    So it looks as though the police just corralled a bunch of high schoolers to where they wanted them to be.

    Can't have what both ways? Nobody denied that there were tweets about high schoolers talking about a purge. Does that mean the police manipulate to place a bunch of high schoolers in a place where they are face to face with riot-geared out police?

    If the kids catch the bus in one place and you stop all the buses from coming to that place, then by golly, you're probably gonna have an accumulation of kids in that area.
     
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    So an accumulation of kids and them seeing cops in riot gear is what forced them to riot?
     
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    Some people never take responsibility for their actions.

    The violence was purely for the sake of violence. Not a means to an end. They couldn't care less about the dead criminal.
     
  9. matt wade

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    Agreed. And our resident apologist Zaac is trying to justify the actions of the thugs that rioted with moronic reasoning.

    These thugs rioted because they are pieces of garbage that wanted to commit acts of violence and get their jollies from it.
     
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    I would like to know why the police stopped buses filled with kids going home and made those kids get off the bus and then would not allow them to get back on the buses and go home?
     
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    Who says it is even true? A report from a teacher "from a nearby school"? How does she know if she was at a nearby school? Her report doesn't make any sense either:

    "Police were forcing busses to stop and unload all their passengers. Then, [Frederick Douglass High School] students, in huge herds, were trying to leave on various busses but couldn't catch any because they were all shut down. No kids were yet around except about 20, who looked like they were waiting for police to do something. The cops, on the other hand, were in full riot gear, marching toward any small social clique of students…It looked as if there were hundreds of cops."

    In the 1st sentence we have buses unloading all their passengers. In the 2nd sentence we have "huge herds" of students. By the 3rd sentence we are down to "about 20" kids.
     
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    Would someone answer why the cops were there in riot gear?

    (I believe I already know; just want to see what CTB and others might say)
     
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    No one wants to answer that one?

    Okay, allow me to answer my own question: Cops show up to a place wearing riot control gear because they were notified that a protest was going to occur. Unfortunately, based on experience, a lot of protests tend to have some people in them who choose to act rowdy; thus, personal protective gear for the policemen is standard.

    And yes, riot control gear looks "militarized" to the untrained eye, because most people who have never actually had dealings with the military have no clue what they're talking about.

    SO - perfectly legitimate reason why police were there in riot control gear.

    I myself sat on a bus with 30-something other guys back in the late 80's, because we were notified there was going to be a protest outside of the base. There was a group of military guys providing basic riot-control duties; and we were standing by in case things got out of hand. A couple of people got silly; but fortunately, those of us standing by in reserve weren't needed.
     
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    Actually several teachers reported this as well as bystanders. Why would you not believe them? Is it because it does not fit what you want to believe?
     
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    So several teachers and bystanders reported that there were bus loads of people unloaded, herds of kids, and then all of a sudden there were just 20 of them?
     
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    So, why did the police unload the buses? Why didn't they let the kids go on to their homes?



     
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