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Featured What is wrong with the belief that Christ rose from the dead on Sunday?

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  1. Gerhard Ebersoehn

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    There is nothing right with it. Everything -- and that means millions -- of things about this belief is wrong.

    For one reason : That it is not "according to the Scriptures".

    But fix ONE un-Scriptural detail of the 'Sunday resurrection' myth, and it DISPROVES ITSELF, WHILST proving the truth, namely, that Jesus rose from the dead "ON THE SABBATH BEFORE the First Day of the week".

    Take into account the FACT, Jesus was crucified and DIED on the day BEFORE the day on which He was BURIED and was SUPPOSED TO BE BURIED ON "according to the Scriptures".

    In other words, Jesus did not DIE, AND, RISE on the SAME day but respectively on consecutive days.

    It spells the END OF SUNDAY SACREDNESS, just the simple actuality -- 'ipso facto'!

     
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    You are one insincere man. If Sunday was the Third, Saturday the Second and Friday the First, there is NO room for Day zero.

    Look at the creation account. The first day of creation is .....the first day
    In Joshua 6, read verse 14. The SECOND day was the.....second day of encompassing Jericho which means the first day was the day before. You don't have a day zero

    Perfect example is Exodus
    Exodus 19:10-11 (ASV)
    10 And Jehovah said unto Moses, Go unto the people, and sanctify them to-day and to-morrow, and let them wash their garments, 11 and be ready against the third day; for the third day Jehovah will come down in the sight of all the people upon mount Sinai


    So 'to-day' is the FIRST day of sanctification, 'to-morrow' is the SECOND day, and the day after tomorrow is the THIRD day.

    If Sunday was the third day, Saturday was the second and Friday was the day of crucifixion

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2216146&postcount=143
     
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    PS: Sunday resurrection don't make it sacred, just a memorial. Why it guts Sabbatarians is beyond me
     
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    More proof that the THIRD day is the day after tomorrow
    Leviticus 7:16-17 (ASV)
    16 But if the sacrifice of his oblation be a vow, or a freewill-offering, it shall be eaten on the day that he offereth his sacrifice; and on the morrow that which remaineth of it shall be eaten: 17 but that which remaineth of the flesh of the sacrifice on the third day shall be burnt with fire.



    Luke 24:21 (ASV)
    21 But we hoped that it was he who should redeem Israel. Yea and besides all this, it is now the third day since these things came to pass.


    Luke 24:45-46 (ASV)
    45 Then opened he their mind, that they might understand the scriptures; 46 and he said unto them, Thus it is written, that the Christ should suffer, and rise again from the dead the third day;
     
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    Don't want disrupt the thread but did want to ask if you have considered how Jews held to two reckonings of when a day began. I think it was those of Galilee, for example, the day began at dusk, whereas those of Jerusalem's day began at dawn, which would explain how the Lord could celebrate the Passover Yet those who took Him had not.

    https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John+18:27-28&version=KJV


    God bless.
     
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    thank you Darrell,
    The two Passover meals are problematic for BOTH Sunday and Saturday resurrection positions. I have heard that the priests spread the Seder over days to accommodate the many animals to be slaughtered. This of all possible explanations make the most sense for me
     
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    I see the Lord celebrating Passover Thursday evening after the manner of those in Galilee, taken in the wee hours of Friday, and crucified on Friday, which for (I think it was southern) Jews who began the day at dawn, they would have celebrated Passover that day.

    It is said that this distinction also made it easier for the sacrificing of the many animals, and that the Brook Kedar would have run red with the blood of that slaughter.

    But I haven't looked at this for a while and just running off a previous study. Need to check on the details.

    I think your quotation of Leviticus 19 makes the figurative meaning clear, so thanks for that. Hadn't made that connection before, but definitely a magic bullet if there ever was one, lol.


    God bless.
     
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    Now please, tell me, WHAT IS THIS: <<<If Sunday was the Third, Saturday the Second and Friday the First, there is NO room for Day zero.>>>

    Your moment of brilliance?! Your eternity of sincerity?!


     
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    Sunday was not the Third Day or "the third day".

    Come, I'll bet my boots it isn't and never was. Frankly I don't know where you got the idea from.

     
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    Sunday was not Resurrection. Don't make it sacred on own authority. You don't have authority to make Sunday Resurrection Day; and you don't have authority to make Sunday sacred for whatever reason you might see fit. You definitely have no authority to make Sunday <<just a memorial>>. Least a memorial of Jesus' Resurrection from the dead "ON THE SABBATH", Jesus' Resurrection having been God's Rest for which reason the Seventh Day was "the Sabbath of the LORD" -- i.e., God's Day-of-Rest in the Son.

    Why it guts Sundaydarians like it does Sabbatarians, is not beyond me. I fully understand why. Because it exposes their fallacy the one's like the other's.

     
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    It is clear as the sky above over the Karoo at midday people sincerely concerned and honestly attempting to find solution for the "third day ACCORDING TO THE SCRIPTURES", is their lack of knowledge of the "Passover of Yahweh" : "THREE DAYS THICK DARKNESS” so that the "three days" of God's salvation of his People out of “the Land-of-Darkness" : Egypt : ‘geh’ : “HELL”, were INDISTINGUISHABLE : ONE— by the Omnipotence of the Redeemer of his people.

    For which absolute and only reason, the exodus passover had ONE DATE, "the fourteenth day of the First Month, which encompassed "THREE DAYS THICK DARKNESS", the fourteenth day, the fifteenth day, and the sixteenth day of the First Month : IN LATER, INSTITUTIONAL Scriptures.

    The exodus had ONE meal: the eating of "the flesh with unleavened bread NO GARNISH"— "the remains" of which "THE NEXT DAY", Israel had to "burn with fire" as type of the interment of Our Passover and Lamb of God, Jesus Christ.


     
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    Luke 24:21King James Version (KJV)

    21 But we trusted that it had been he which should have redeemed Israel: and beside all this, to day is the third day since these things were done.


    Can you guess what day is 'to-day' in this verse?
    Luke 24:1King James Version (KJV)

    24 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

    Luke 24:13 King James Version (KJV)

    13 And, behold, two of them went that same day to a village called Emmaus, which was from Jerusalem about threescore furlongs.


    'To-day'of v21 is 'that same day' of v13 which is the 'first day of the week' of verse 1
     
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    Jesus was crucified on Friday, resurrected on a Sunday. It is so clear, has always been since his resurrection. History is very harsh on revisionists and their phony theories
     
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    Jesus was crucified on : Scripture : New Testament: “the first day they KILLED the passover” Mark 14:12 et al; Old Testament: “the fourteenth day of the First Month” Leviticus 23:5 et al.

    Jesus was buried on : Scripture : New Testament: “the Preparation” Mark 15:42, “great-day-sabbath” John 19:31,38,39, “since evening having had started” Matthew 27:57 Luke 23:50 until “the Preparation mid-afternoon the Sabbath nearing” Luke 23:54 John 19:42; Old Testament: “the fifteenth day of the First Month” Leviticus 23:6 et al.

    It is so clear, has always been so clear, since his Crucifixion, Burial and Resurrection “the third day according to the SCRIPTURES” 1Corinthians 15:3,4.

    History is very harsh on the never revised, phony theory of anti-Christ, that He <<resurrected on a Sunday>>.
     
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    Who could not?


    So? Useless information everyone already has.
     
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    Can you, SEE what day you SKIPPED to colour in?
     
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    What is wrong with the belief that Christ rose from the dead on Sunday?

    Nuthin.
     
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    Re:
    <<<the Lord celebrating Passover Thursday evening after the manner of those in Galilee,>>>

    The Jews?, No! Because events at the death of Jesus and before, UPSET THEIR APPLE-CART.

    At the time preparations should have been made for the sacrifices and while the time for the sacrifices, there was impenetrable "DARKNESS OVER ALL THE LAND".

    Then occurred an earthquake so that the rocks rent and the graves opened and the veil rent BEFORE a lamb was slaughtered.

    Else they would have eaten the passover on that <<Thursday>> night.

    John mentions “at”, this very, “first night” of unleavened bread eaten “with the flesh” but never killed or roasted, so, never eaten. John 19:39.

     
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    It is FALSE. And Sunday-sacredness is based on its FALSITY!
     
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    The whole Bible except the book of Exodus allows for only one method of reckoning days, and that is, from sunset to sunset.

    Sunset could be supposed, so that 'dusk' or the "early-dark" or "evening" after sunset is taken for the beginning of the day-cycle.

    Exodus reckons days sunrise to sunrise. Because the country was pagan --- they worshipped the upcoming SUN.

     
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