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U.S. Officials Panic About Seymour Hersh Story

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by poncho, May 12, 2015.

  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    Then Deny His Claims Using Jedi Mind Tricks

    What really struck me last evening as I was reading Seymour Hersh’s article exposing the bin Laden raid story as a farce, was the fact that it answered in detail so many of the questions I’ve had about the raid over the years. For example:

    In 2012, I wrote the post: New Emails Say No Sailors Watched Bin Laden’s Burial at Sea

    This was followed up in 2013 with: U.S. Government’s Secret Move to Hide Files on the Osama Bin Laden Raid

    Then, finally in 2014: The U.S. Military Ordered Bin Laden Photos Destroyed 10 Days After Freedom of Information Act Request

    Commenting on the burial aspect of this White House fairytale, I noted:


    The Osama Bin Laden raid was suspect from the very beginning. Not only were key initial descriptions of the assault completely incorrect (such as him being armed and his wife being killed), but the manner in which his body was rapidly tossed into the ocean was beyond bizarre. I mean, Tony Soprano keeps a body longer than that.

    What’s even more incredible than the latest Hersh article, is the U.S. government’s pathetic attempt to deny it. Officials are basically responding by saying things like “you’d have to believe the government would lie to you,” and “there are too many inaccuracies to respond to all of them.

    For example, Politico reports that:

    Read More At: http://libertyblitzkrieg.com/2015/05/11/u-s-officials-panic-about-seymour-hersh-story-then-deny-his-claims-using-jedi-mind-tricks/

    The Bin Laden Raid Was A Work Of Fiction, And Barack Obama Should Immediately Resign

    Pulitzer Prize winning investigative journalist Seymour Hersh has uncovered one of the biggest lies in modern American history. It turns out that much of what the American public was told about the raid that killed Osama bin Laden was a blatant lie. According to Hersh, Osama bin Laden had been captured by Pakistan all the way back in 2006, and he was being held by the ISI as a prisoner at the Abbottabad compound that the Seals ultimately raided in 2011. In addition, Hersh says that the ISI and Pakistan’s military knew about the Seal raid in advance. Arrangements were made so that the Black Hawk helicopters could travel through Pakistani airspace safely, and the ISI guards at Osama bin Laden’s compound were pulled away before the Seals got there. And by that time, Osama bin Laden was reportedly in such bad health that he was essentially a cripple. There was no “firefight” at all – only a turkey shoot. Afterwards, Osama bin Laden’s body never made it to the USS Carl Vinson for a “burial at sea”. That was all just part of the cover story according to Hersh. Of course the White House and Obama’s lackeys at CNN are strongly denying all of this, and they will continue to deny the truth for as long as they possibly can. But there are individuals in the U.S. military and in the U.S. intelligence community that can come forward and tell us what really happened. Let us hope that at least some of those individuals still care enough about this country to do that.

    According to Hersh, one of the biggest lies that Obama told was that Pakistani leadership had no idea that the Seals were coming in. Actually, the truth is that the head of the army, General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani, and the director general of the ISI, General Ahmed Shuja Pasha, were both heavily involved in the planning of the operation. The following is an excerpt from Hersh’s article for the London Review of Books…

    Read More At: http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/the-bin-laden-raid-was-a-work-of-fiction-and-barack-obama-should-immediately-resign

    Alice in Wonderland Bin Laden Story is “One Big Lie”

    Pulitzer Prize winner, Seymour Hersh, calls out the establishment’s press for being “pathetic, more than obsequious, they are afraid to pick on [Obama]“. We revisit the lies of the Obama raid, the rewards for top brass that sold it, and the death shortly afterward of 20 SEALs who were there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUd8FGYI1Ak
     
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  2. Zaac

    Zaac Well-Known Member

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    I don't think that I've ever heard a report on a military operation from the White House or the Pentagon that I've completely believed. They're always covering something to be used down the line.
     
  3. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    Shhhh! I'm waiting to hear from the folks who have said over and over that Obama can't tell the truth to attack me for accusing Obama of lying. :laugh:

    Why Hersh’s Account Is Credible and Why I Believe It Is Correct

    The White House denies the accuracy of Hersh’s expose of the real nature of the bin Laden murder. The denial is so far very sketchy, offering only a few assertions and no facts that would show that its story is correct and Hersh’s account false.

    Hersh’s account, based heavily on an intelligence source, is credible, however. One reason is that it is an account that EXPLAINS a number of otherwise inexplicable facts; and its explanation is not strained or far-fetched. Furthermore, as shown below, important features of his account agree with conclusions I reached within a few days of bin Laden’s death that were presented in this blog. By contrast, the White House explanation has never explained everything satisfactorily. It did the opposite. It left many critical questions unanswered, and a good many of these questions were raised in my blogs, and presumably in those of others, at the time when bin Laden was killed

    At the time, on May 2, 2011, I raised these questions in this blog:

    Read More At: https://www.lewrockwell.com/lrc-blog/why-hershs-account-is-credible-and-why-i-believe-it-is-correct/

    Hersh: Obama lied. Obama: No, I didn’t. NBC: Yep, you did. And again just now.

    Obama and his regime are on the defensive as Hersh reveals the many, many lies (some of which led to the deaths of innocent people) that Obama told about his assassination of bin Laden.

    Hersh’s report details those lies, and concludes: ““High-level lying … remains the modus operandi of US policy, along with secret prisons, drone attacks, Special Forces night raids, bypassing the chain of command, and cutting out those who might say no.”

    Seemingly unable to help himself, and as if trying to offer immediate confirmation of Hersh’s analysis, Obama announced that “Pakistanis did not know” about the US raid.

    NBC then confirmed that very aspect of Hersh’s report, saying yes, a “Pakistani official helped the US find bin Laden”.

    Hersh’s report is confirmed by multiple US intelligence sources, and he himself confirmed that, having been around a long time, he does not feel he is going out on a limb with any of the information.

    Read More At: http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/05/hersh-obama-lied-obama-no-i-didnt-nbc-yep-you-did-and-again-just-now.html
     
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    It is possible that Hersh's story is true, particularly about the Pakistani connection. It is also possible Pakastan did not want their part revealed!
     
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    It would not surprise me in the least if this story were true.

    But we will never known unless several of the men involved in the attack come forward, dangerous though it may be.
     
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    Ive suspected from the beginning it was a fabrication.
     
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    But the movie was based on a true story...
     
  8. poncho

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    Seymour Hersh Succumbs To Disinformation

    Seymour Hersh Succumbs To Disinformation

    Paul Craig Roberts

    Seymour Hersh has published a long account of the homicide of Osama bin Laden:

    http://www.lrb.co.uk/v37/n10/seymour-m-hersh/the-killing-of-osama-bin-laden

    Hersh concludes that the Obama regime’s account of the killing of bin Laden is a total fabrication except for the fact that bin Laden was killed.

    I do not believe Hersh’s story for three reasons.

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/05/11/seymour-hersh-succumbs-disinformation-paul-craig-roberts/
     
  9. poncho

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    In Stunning U-Turn, NBC Retracts Story That Obama Lied About bin Laden

    It would appear someone at NBC News got a rather large tap on the shoulder. In what is a stunning reversal of their confirmation that President Obama lied and lying about the killing of bin Laden, NBC News has updated their original story - that "two intelligence sources tell NBC News that the year before the U.S. raid that killed Osama bin Laden, a 'walk in' asset from Pakistani intelligence told the CIA where the most wanted man in the world was hiding" - to this - "Sources say that while the asset provided information vital to the hunt for bin Laden, he was not the source of his whereabouts." As Slate concludes, while NBC’s story doesn’t use the word correction or retraction, that’s what this appears to be.

    Continue . . . http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2015-05-14/stunning-u-turn-nbc-retracts-story-obama-lied-about-bin-laden
     
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    :laugh:

    Conspiracy theorists collide.

    Roberts is invested in the theory that Bin Laden was dead in 2001 so...

    Hersh can't be right.

    Hillarious. :laugh:
     
  11. poncho

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    Yeah that is Hillarious. To think this government would lie about something like that. It's been so honest about everything else. :laugh:
     
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