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-1 for improper use of "whom."

"Confront"? How about you schedule some time with him for the two of you to study the matter together, instead of "confronting"?

Iron sharpeneth iron; and more especially, Galatians 6:1.

 

Is this the Pastor of your Wife's church? I say "your Wife's" because you have said that you go to a different church because of doctrinal differences.

 

Does your church hold to Lordship Salvation as part of their Statement or Articles of Faith? If not, then who are you to try to bring in doctrines that are not part of their established doctrine? Did the pastor truly stand by an easy-believism message, or do you just look at anything that in't Lordship Salvation as easy-believism? I hope you're not setting up a false dichotomy, because that's not a good way to live a theologically sound life.

Scripture speaks plainly enough on the means by which you should confront someone you perceive has done wrong.

That being said, you are desiring to confront a pastor simply because he disagrees with you on a theological position. The man has done nothing wrong to you; he has not trespassed against you. Yet you desire confrontation where none should occur.

I don't agree with my pastor on every theological issue. That does not mean I should confront him unless he offers up affront to the gospel itself. Only then would I have grounds to confront him, and even then it should be carried out in the gospel order listed in the scripture above.

Now, if you think merely having the opinion that Lordship Salvation is a works-based salvation (a position many hold to) is an affront to the gospel, then you might as well prepare yourself to live your entire life offended and others' beliefs.

 

I say go ahead and confront the Calvinist pastor for his false teachings on those things.

 

No Don. At this late stage evan deserves many more demerits than just a -1. He has been taught scores of times on the matter and yet ignores the advice as much as he ignoress counsel on weightier issues. If he is unteachable on small matters --he will remain unteachable on the larger matters.

 

I say the very first thing you do is get on your knees and pray!... We all need the Lords guidance... Lord what would you have me do?... To often well meaning brothers or sisters see and I don't excuse myself see the error in the their church and think its their God given duty to correct it... Be careful its God that corrects the errors as he knows exactly what is needed and where the when and the how. Follow biblical guidelines according to scripture but before any action is taken... "PRAY"... Remember the Lord takes care of it in his time not ours and there is always a reason he does even though we may not see it at the time... Brother Glen

 

First the pastor you were gossiping with should have called you out on the gossip. Therefore his not rebuking you for being disruptive in Sunday School is a moot point.

Second the Bible is clear about the procedure for dealing with problems with other believers. Matthew 18 has already been brought up but since this is dealing with a pastor we should also look at 1 Tim 5:17-19 which says:

You alone do not have the Biblical Authority to confront a pastor. You have to have at least 2 people to do so. My guess is that everyone else in your wife’s church either agrees with the pastor, or doesn’t see it as a dividing issue. Which means that you are the one out of Biblical line here.

Third why are you still going to this church. And why did you marry someone knowing they were anti-Calvinist, when it is such a deal breaker for you? Did you not realize how much inner turmoil that would bring into your marriage?

 

So you disagree with the Biblical command to have 2 witnesses when confronting a pastor?

Here it is again since it did not show up I'm JonC quote
1 Tim 5:17-19
17*Let the elders*who rule well be considered worthy of*double honor, especially those who labor in preaching and teaching.*18*For the Scripture says,“You shall not muzzle an ox when it treads out the grain,” and,*“The laborer deserves his wages.”*19*Do not admit a charge against an elder except*on the evidence of two or three witnesses.*

 

You still on this kick? Holy freaking cow! When are you going to [act like] a Christian, and step out of the ministry, and get a job to pay your debts and provide for your wife?

And for the last time, learn the freaking rules of grammar! WHOM is objective, and WHO is nominative. "I was chatting with a certain Christian counsellor WHO graduated . . ." not WHOM! Maybe God would be more attentive to your prayers for your wife's conversion if you didn't offend His ears!

 

Wife's conversion? To what? Calvinism? Oh boy...

 

Seems a bit harsh.

 

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