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Is big money behind the Carson surge in recent polls?

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by righteousdude2, Nov 3, 2015.

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Is big money behind the Carson surge in recent polls?

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  2. No

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  3. It could be, but time will tell

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  4. Carson is showing good, because he is good

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  1. righteousdude2

    righteousdude2 Well-Known Member
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    GOP Spends to Take Down Trump?​

    Is it mere coincidence that just tow weeks ago, the GOP elites decided to throw money in the direction of super pacs to help bring a quick exit of Trump from the 2016 race and the SUDDEN rise in Carson's poll numbers?

    I don't believe it is coincidence. I believe there are super pacs spending money to buy polls in order to give the illusion that Carson has suddenly, out of nowhere, made 10 to 15 gains in several polls that only three weeks ago showed him trailing Trump by ten percent to 15%?! That may explain why this weeks WSJ shows Carson surging to a 29 to 23% lead over Trump! http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/201...-carson-surges-lead-national-gop-race-n456006

    READ: http://fortune.com/2015/10/22/donald-trump-club-for-growth-battle/
     
    #1 righteousdude2, Nov 3, 2015
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    Money is behind every election...shouldn't be a surprise it's behind this one.
     
    #2 matt wade, Nov 4, 2015
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    Why do you think that it is an illusion? Voters' opinions change.
     
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    Exactly. When is big money NOT behind a politician doing well?
     
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    Folks have realized that Trump is crazy and all about self. They'll support anybody.

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    Yes, but RD2 said, "I believe there are super pacs spending money to buy polls". That is a direct allegation of unethical behavior, not just an observation that money is buying TV commercials, direct mailers, and social media promotions.

    Since all these polls show basically the same data and the same trends, RD2 would have us believe that all these polls are being bought by Carson's campaign. I'd like to see RD2 repeat this allegation that polls are being bought directly to the face of the heads of The Gallup Poll, the Quinnipiac Poll, the Rasmussen Poll, the NBC/WSJ poll, etc.

    If politicians can buy polls, I wonder why Jeb isn't leading all the polls? He's got the most money and I bet he's got the most experienced handlers as well. Surely his people would know how to buy a poll, wouldn't they?

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    As usual with an RD2 poll, the choices are terribly written. I see two choices that would fit my opinion but really they mean the same thing in the context of the question asked.

    My answers would be:
    "No"
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    "Carson is showing good because he is good"

    These are essentially the same answer to the question:
    "Is big money behind the Carson surge in recent polls?"
     
    #7 InTheLight, Nov 4, 2015
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    The GOP establishment is trying to undermine Trump at every turn but I do not think we can look to polls to see evidence of that.
     
    #8 Revmitchell, Nov 4, 2015
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    [​IMG]
     
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    At the beginning of the election cycle most of the conservative electorate found Donald Trump to be very entertaining. He managed to tap into the vast undercurrent of dissatisfaction that most conservatives feel today. He was saying what they had been wanting to say for years.

    But now as we draw closer to the primary elections those same people are realizing that, as entertaining as he is, we don't really want an entertaining person in the White House. We want a competent, honest, experienced executive. So, many of the Trump stalwarts are no longer quite so stalwart. As miserable a job as the CNBC Debate moderators did, the question "are you proposing a ‘Comic Book Version of a Presidency’?" has now become a valid question among the electorate.
     
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    Well said. There's just nothing in his speech that comes across as really wanting to be President. King maybe. But definitely not President.

    Being President takes a certain amount of political acumen. Trump doesn't have that. He merely repeats what he has heard repeated.
    It also requires a certain amount of respect for the office. And say what they like about Obama, he does in his own quirky type way show respect for the office. I don't think Trump could. The office for him would be about being seen every day, and being a part of the news cycle every day. It wouldn't be about actually doing anything substantive that he came up with on his own. He's the Kim Kardashian of politics: he can look the part, but lacks the substance to BE the part.
     
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    That doesn't explain Ben Carson's ascension to the top of the polls. He's honest (apparently) but I wouldn't call him a competent, experienced executive.
     
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    Carson's ascension is due to him not being an insder, part of the establishment or a politician. It appears people would rather have an inexperienced executive who is honest than an experienced one who is not. Quite frankly I do not blame them.
     
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  14. righteousdude2

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    Huh? Oh, silly me! I couldn't believe what I read ... then I went back and saw it came from "TOM," and the response made complete sense. Very insightful TOM. Very well thought out. Hours of research is demonstrated in the way you laid out each carefully presented word within each sentence, culminating in two superior paragraphs to support your overall thought process and views about the Donald.

    In short, it figures that you would not vote for a loose cannon like Trump. No surprise from your camp.
     
    #14 righteousdude2, Nov 4, 2015
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    Another RD apology thread in 5...4...3...2...1...
     
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