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Republicans Admit That A Trump Or Cruz Win Will Destroy The GOP For A Generation

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  1. Crabtownboy

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    Boy, this is pushed by some site that calls itself "real liberal politics." Since Republicans being unelectable is exactly what you and that site would want, there is no reason to it, or you, seriously.
     
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    It would appear you have not read my numerous posts in the past as to why it is important that the GOP remain a viable party whether I support it or not. One lesson of history is that when one party dominates for a long period of time very bad things start to happen. What I would like is for the GOP to move toward being a party of all the people and not just a party for we Whites. For many years I was registered and usually voted Republican. However, with the gradual shift the party took after Nixon instituted the Southern Strategy I could not longer support a party that I felt had become primarily interested in only big business, the rich and a party supporting only one race, the White race. It was not that my political philosophy changed. It was that the GOP changed.

    It will be a disaster if the GOP disappears or becomes non-viable for a generation or two.
     
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    They said the same thing about Goldwater yet he gave rise to Reagan who has given the Republicans a conservative voice for at least a generation.
     
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    Could be that the current R-leadership is afraid of losing their hold on the Republican party.
     
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    It's a lie. We cannot out lib liberals. In recent years everytime we have put forth truely conservative candidates they win. McConnel and his ilk are liberals. The op is a fools errand and nothing more than an opportunity to call people racist. When you take a look of the line up of Republican candidates and the line up of Democrat candidates we can see who is only for white people.

    Hint: it is not the Republicans, we are about as diverse as one can get. Unlike the Dems
     
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    From Nixon to Reagan to Bush to Trump. The spiral has been downward to more and more extreme candidates. And it is leading to the demise of the GOP. And, as I have said, that will be a tragedy for the USA. We need two viable parties who are for all the people and not just interested in helping the rich corporations and rich people.
     
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    You do understand that the GOP is more liberal than the democrat party right?

    The democrat party is now a party of authoritarians posing as liberals. No real liberal would have anything to do with it.

    That's the real tragedy here. Liberals have become so un-liberal.
     
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    If we had a party for ALL the people, we would only need one party.
    But today -
    some think that it is the governments job to take care of everyone - thus the liberals
    some think that it is an individuals responsibility to take care of himself - thus the conservatives
     
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    The one choice we actually have is between freedom and slavery.

    Both parties speak of freedom as something they honor then act to enslave us through legislation.

    The one choice we're told we have is between liberal tyranny or conservative tyranny.

    So, . . . which do you prefer?
     
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    Salty, and then there are those, like me, who take a stance in the middle and say there are those who can take care of themselves and they should and there are those who cannot take care of themselves and we who are blessed should help them.
     
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    Then there are those like me that take the stance that those who can take care of themselves shouldn't let those who refuse to take care of themselves use government force to coerce those who can take care of themselves into taking care of those who refuse to take care of themselves.

    Those who can take care of themselves have always been willing and happy to help those who can't take care of themselves.

    Charity = love, it comes from the heart freely.

    Forcing Peter to take care of Paul = robbery, it comes from coercion at a cost.

    WWJD? Use government to force Peter to take care of Paul and call it charity?

    Somehow I just can't picture that.
     
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    From Kennedy to Obama it has been a deathward spiral for the DNC toward Marxism.
     
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    Hi [personal attack snipped by admin]

    I won't go into detail as it is pointless. But you contradicted yourself in your statement.

    Blessings.
     
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    Destroy the GOP for a generation? I thought had already taken place?
     
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    No I didn't. There's a big difference between those who can't take of themselves and those who refuse to take care of themselves.

    I probably just used to many words to say "Jesus wouldn't use government to force Peter to take care of Paul then call it charity."

    Do you disagree?

    [thank you admin, good job!]
     
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    Yeah, just before Abe Lincoln was elected president. Been going down hill ever since.

    And now they're lettin it all hang out. Groovy man! Fascism is so trendy. The Prez can like do whatever he wants now, is that like kewl or what?

    Sorry, was having a conversation with some heavily indebted college kids on another channel, sort of.
     
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    Oh? Please elaborate further!
     
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    Should we help others ? - YES ! as individuals!
    But how do we help others - just give someone something - that is enabling
    We best help others - by assisting them to improve themselves. - that is real help

    bottom line - it is NOT the governments job to provide give-a-way programs - that is A mission of the church.

    GIVE a man a fish, he will eat for a day - TEACH him how to fish, and he will eat for a lifetime.
     
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    Just more leftist propaganda. They are deathly afraid of a conservative, any conservative. But their fear of Trump knows no bounds. He's not even a conservative. ;)
     
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