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I'm Angry So I'm Voting for Trump

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by InTheLight, Mar 16, 2016.

  1. InTheLight

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    Biggrin
     
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    Roflmao ROFL
     
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    This isn't an attack on Trump, it's an attack on his supporters. And it will backfire.
     
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    The only way that Trump can be stopped now is for Kasich to let Cruz run unfettered against Trump in the remaining primaries. That might mean a Cruz-Kasich ticket.

    Trump is like LBJ in his remarks and will have difficulty in debating Hillary because Trump himself will be the issue in a debate with Hillary whereas Hillary is too old to debate a younger smarter more energetic opponent such as Cruz.
     
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  6. InTheLight

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    Trump was stopped last night when Kasich won Ohio. It's now almost virtually impossible for Trump to get the necessary delegates to outright win the nomination on the first vote at the convention. That means a contested nomination at the convention. Unless you think he will win 60% of the delegates going forward in every remaining state. He has gotten about 45% of all delegates in all contests so far. Now that the southern states are out of the way, I expect Trump to start to finish in 2nd place more often.

    I can't wait to see scores and scores of Trump delegates, no longer bound to vote for him, switch over to either Kasich or Cruz on the second ballot. The world will see that Trump does not have the skills to "make a deal" to net him the nomination.
     
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    I am not sure which of the remaining states are winner-take-all so I am unclear on the math but I think that Trump is in the catbird seat. Also, it was originally thought that Cruz would do well in the South but the crowded field worked in Trump's favor. Doesn't Trump get winner-take-all in New York and Pennsylvania?

    As you know, Kasich is much more liberal than Rubio so he has no chance of being nominated. But in order to silence him, Cruz has to compromise and perhaps suggest a Cruz-Kasich ticket. If Cruz wins the November election, he can ignore Kasich for four years and then dump him.
     
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    I remember someone being sure that Trump would lose Florida. The more people protest and the more people smear Trump, the stronger he gets. The race is completely outside any prediction.

    There are two things for sure. 1) Conservatives aren't looking for a saint this time around. They are going to take someone they believe will deliver on his promises AND fight back, warts and all. The vast majority are not against Trump.

    2) The Republican party is changed. If trump goes to the convention with a majority of the delegates, even if he didn't get the 1237 designed to keep Ron Paul out of the race, they either stay unified and hand him the nomination, or they don't hand him the nomination and become more insignificant than the Libertarians.
     
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    Let's see. Trump has 661 delegates now. After he wins everything in Arizona on the 22nd he will have 719. He'll get the winner-take-all states of NY, PA, CA, NJ, DEL,MD,S.D., Montana and Wis.. That will be a grand total of 1260. And that's not including a portion of delegates he will pick up in R.I.,A.S., W.V.,Oregon,Washington and N.M. Trump will be sitting pretty with his yuge delegate count of 1,300 plus.

    Meanwhile, J.K. may get all of Conn. Good for him. No more goodies for Johnny.

    Let's give Teddy the benefit of the doubt;Cruz might get all of NEB.,UTAH,Colo.,Wyo. and Indiana. That's 187. And he might pick up 55 votes from the six places I itemized in my opening paragraph. So Cruz will end up with less delegates than Trump has at this early stage. Poor Teddy. Yep, I'm saying that Cruz will pick up only around 242 more delegates in this race unless he quits and sees that the math is working against him.

    Winner! D.T.!
     
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    Why would Kasich drop out now? He just won Ohio?

    More and more of the GOP will resign itself to Trump being the nominee. At this point, they are trying to figure out how to save the Senate and the House.
     
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    I will have to say, I don't expect Cruz to do well at all, even if Kasich drops out. The establishment doesn't like Cruz. He will not prevail in a contested or brokered convention. Kasich is in till the end just to weigh Cruz down, and there's not a blessed thing Cruz can do about it.

    Even if the three stay in, I don't think anyone can say with any degree of certainty that Trump won't prevail.

    Cruz is a man of principle. I'll give him that. But he needs to pick up the sword and start inflicting damage not on Trump, but on the establishment, but then his well of financing would dry up, wouldn't it?

    I agree with Carson.
     
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    You rip me for picking Rubio to win Florida, whereas just about every prediction of yours has been a flop.

    Trump will not have enough delegates to outright win the nomination before the convention.
     
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    Carson is a novice and has his own personal faults. There is no reason to underwrite his political advice as he seeks for himself a federal job under Trump.

    Cruz outpolls Trump in a one-on-one contest and clearly Donald had to run away from the next debate because Cruz would have defeated him easily in a debate. No one has any idea of what Trump would do as President because Trump wheels and deals like LBJ and his promises are empty.

    Cruz may have to compromise with Kasich but that is the best hope to stop both Trump and the Clintons.
     
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    Folks should have been ignoring his political advice a long time ago. The fact that he publicly made a statement about breaking the law shows that he should never have been taken seriously. He's just trying to sell some books.
     
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    Oh, well, you are a partisan leftist and you wouldn't like anyone who stood for freedom.
     
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    Nope

    I don't worry about candidates standing for freedom if I can't find a candidate that adheres to the two greatest commandments first.
     
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    Like Rosa Parks?
     
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    I just did a Google search and I couldn't find anywhere or anything that said Rosa Parks ran for President. Maybe you can point that out to us.
     
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    What difference on God's green earth does that make?
     
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