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Nazarene & Baptists

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by JonC, Mar 18, 2016.

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  1. JonC

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    No intro, just a question :).

    What are the differences between Nazarene and Free-Will Baptist doctrine?
     
    #1 JonC, Mar 18, 2016
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    Here is the Nazarene Statement of Faith

    I draw your attention to the bolded and underlined sections. The main emphasis of Nazarene doctrine surrounds the teaching of entire sanctification. In general, it is taught that a person a "second act of Grace" where by become instantly and entirely sanctified. No progressive sanctification here! From the Article of Faith"

    There are numerous other differences such as: the mode of baptism, inclusion of children in baptism, eternal security, government. I spent 13 years with the Untied Methodist and one year as an intentional interim with the CotN. I also spent tens of thousands of dollars learning the differences between Wesleyan Arminianism and the brand found in a Free Will Baptist church.
     
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  3. JonC

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    Thanks for the info.

    Sent from my TARDIS
     
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  4. Internet Theologian

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    Aren't you a Baptarene? Or is it Naztist?
     
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    No. I'm Dort-ish with a twist. Think Calvinistic before it bloomed, minus some baggage the Reformers forgot to leave behind, and then toss in a bit more biblical perspective that had been overlooked.....you know....Dort-ish . :D

    But I do like tangerines, if that counts. Thumbsup
     
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    Dortish? No. Sounds more like Deformed Baptist mixed with some delusional thinking. :)
     
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    Or dare say I.....


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    Nah...I left that bunch decades ago. Was a member of your denomination for a brief time, but moved closer to biblical theology by God's grace. I simply kept growing in Christ (we call it sanctification and discipleship). :D

    How bout you.....You still attend the First Assembly of Gnostic Stoicism? o_O
     
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    Obviously you do dare to say. I wouldn't have as that has the potential to be severely misunderstood (but the thought crossed my mind as well....I just let it continue on and slip out the other ear :)).
     
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    I pray you realize that was meant to be a joke. I honestly meant no harm. I'm sorry if that offended you and hurt your feelings.
     
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    Don't be silly, brother. I'm not offended at all (like I said, reading IT's statement that same idea crossed my mind). I was playing off your "dare I say" comment because, quite frankly, there are a few responses I've reeled back because I realized it could be taken wrong. I'd never, for example, abbreviate "First Assembly of Gnostic Stoicism" in jest simply because I'd fear someone would take offense.

    But you need not apologize at all, and I was not offended.
     
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    Baptism and Holiness.

    See this dissertation that examines Canada's Methodists and Nazarenes, Free Baptists and Reformed Baptists (as well as the Salvation Army). "Each of these five groups was adamant that God’s offer of salvation was extended to all of humanity.":

    pdf see Chap. 2 Theology p. 44 ff.

    Baptism:

    "Methodists and their progeny, Pentecostal Nazarenes. . .made no issue over mode of baptism, accepting sprinkling, pouring and immersing as suitable methods. They also considered baptism as appropriate for individuals of all ages"

    "Free Christian Baptists and Reformed Baptists, on the other hand, believed that baptism solely symbolised one’s own faith. As a result, they baptised only those able to profess personal conversion. Furthermore, they insisted that baptism by immersion was the only acceptable method"

    Holiness:

    "Reformed Baptists and Pentecostal Nazarenes embraced radical views concerning entire sanctification, ideas which a large number of Methodists and Free Christian Baptists did not accept."

    "as the nineteenth century came to a close, a distinct theological chasm had emerged. This doctrinal gulf separated the bulk of Methodists and Free Christian Baptists on one side, from Reformed Baptists and those Methodists who had pledged their allegiance to the holiness movement."
     
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    Geography. Mostly Southerners, I would imagine.
     
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