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The Jews Will Be Resurrected After the Gentiles?

Discussion in 'Baptist Theology & Bible Study' started by Internet Theologian, Mar 27, 2016.

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  1. Internet Theologian

    Internet Theologian Well-Known Member

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    I heard this from a preacher today. He stated that the Jews will be resurrected on the last day and no Jew will be in the (first?) resurrection. I suppose this first resurrection is 'at the rapture'.

    His proof text was John 11:24; "Martha said to him, "I know that he will rise again in the resurrection on the last day."

    This preacher went on a little bit about how accurate the Word is here and how it proves Jews won't be resurrected until after all others. He emphasized 'on the last day'.

    Really? Thoughts?
     
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    Actually, he is wrong. All who are saved, are Jews inwardly, as Paul pointed out in Romans 2.


    Believers Who Have Died

    Brothers and sisters, we do not want you to be uninformed about those who sleep in death, so that you do not grieve like the rest of mankind, who have no hope. For we believe that Jesus died and rose again, and so we believe that God will bring with Jesus those who have fallen asleep in him. According to the Lord’s word, we tell you that we who are still alive, who are left until the coming of the Lord, will certainly not precede those who have fallen asleep. For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. Therefore encourage one another with these words.[1 Thessalonians 4:13-17]

    Now, I believe in a general resurrection where the died in Christ(inwardly Jewish ppls) raise first and those who are alive still(inwardly Jewish ppls alive in Christ...others are dead in sins) are changed. Then the dead in sins are raised. So yes, Jews are raised first.
     
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    Well this preacher didn't mean quite that.
     
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    Please expound.
     
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    This preacher stated there would be a resurrection for the saved Gentiles. Then later came a resurrection for the saved Jews.
     
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    One of the challenges of many restorationist theologies is the tight line they need to walk between true theology and a kind of dual covenantalism (e.g. John Hagee) that is in error.

    There is only one resurrection, it is of believers in Christ.

    In Christ we are all one, there is no distinction, no Greek, no Jew, no America, no Middle Eastern, but all who believe are one in Christ.
     
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    The preacher of the OP is taking a statement about the "general resurrection" in which the typical Jews (orthodox) do believe, and making some kind of theological leap.

    The Jews of both Christ's day, and the orthodox Jews of today, both hold that God will have a point in which the dead will be raised and answer for what they have done.

    The believers have those who would confuse that general resurrection (sometimes called that "great white throne" judgment of God) with other resurrections.

    I heard a preacher many years ago that used the passage "cloud of witnesses" and "clouds received him..." as all the saints of paradise being transferred into heaven at the ascension of Christ.

    There is all manner of teaching that can be found, because some need the emotional puffy and follow after such.

    However, be careful not to lump all who hold a doctrinal view into those who rely upon the puffy for their foundation. A wise believer will hear of such, find true instruction in the Scriptures, and ignore the rest.

    There is MORE than one resurrection from the dead found in the Scriptures:

    The prophet involved in raising the dead child of the widow.
    The prophecy of the resurrection in the valley of bones.
    The raising of the little girl by Jesus.
    The raising of the son being carried out of the house by Jesus.
    The raising of Lazarus.
    The raising of many who where in the tombs at the death of Christ.
    The raising of Christ as the first fruits.
    The believer translation of the living and raising of the believing dead as Paul discusses.
    The great white throne general raising of all after time has stopped.​

    Did I miss any?

    The point being that if one makes the claim that there is only ONE resurrection, then the statement is just as mistaken as the statement of the preacher mentioned in the OP.
     
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