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Featured Obama DOJ Prosecuted More Gov. Officials For Leaking Classified Info Than Past Admins Combined

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  1. Revmitchell

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    Simple, here’s what FBI Director Comey said regarding Hillary Clinton and this email server episode:

    • He concluded Hillary was “extremely careless” in handling our nation’s secrets.
    • He admitted no reasonable person could have believed putting these emails on a private server was at all appropriate or acceptable.
    • He admitted 110 emails on the server were classified at the time they were sent — showing Hillary not only lied, but knowingly endangered national security as secretary of state.
    • He admitted Hillary deleted work-related emails before turning them over to the State Department, despite her claims otherwise.
    • And, most shocking, Mr. Comey even admitted it’s likely foreign governments hacked her emails — and our adversaries could know critical secrets about the U.S. government because of Hillary’s actions.
    Here’s a simple Southern summation. Hillary Clinton was extremely careless with our not just classified, but highly classified, information — why not just term this gross negligence? I can tell you, if I were a member of our Armed Services who’s been punished for misuse or mishandling of classified information, I would be filing an appeal. See, in the military, at a minimum, you’ll lose your security clearance; maximum, you’ll face courts-martial punishment.

    Comey has said Hillary Clinton is not reasonable — is that who you want as president and commander in chief? And Mrs. Clinton’s actions were not appropriate or acceptable. That follows with Mrs. Clinton’s blatant lie about not having any classified material on her private server — her unclassified, private, personal server. Hillary Clinton stated there was no classified correspondence she emailed — wrong, a lie. Lastly, Comey confirmed Hillary Clinton inappropriately deleted the property of the American people — State Department, work-related emails. We know from the deposition of her closest aide, the daughter of Muslim Brotherhood associates Huma Abedin, that she admitted to burning emails.

    http://www.allenbwest.com/allen/heres-why-im-delighted-about-the-fbis-verdict-on-hillary
     
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    Can we add this story into a pinned Drudge Report thread? :Rolleyes
     
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    Not his place to say. He was supposed to be reporting on the law. Partisan.
    Not his place to say. He was supposed to be reporting on the law. Partisan.
    Then prosecute her. Otherwise this is more partisan horse manure. Was there willful intent to knowingly endanger national security? If he can't prove that, then there was no reason to even bring this up.
    Work-related is awfully vague. She could have mentioned her assistant in a private email and it could be deemed work-related. So try again with the witch hunt.
    In a court of law, this is called hearsay and he would not have been allowed to have the comments recognized. He's basically spreading fear and innuendo because that's what the folks on the radical right have been pushing since they started this little adventure.
    And HERE is what this was really about.
     
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    Zaac, you are unbelievable. You're letting your dislike of Rev cloud your judgment.

    Here are the facts. Clinton has been in government for more than 20 years. Being Secretary of State is NOT the first time she's had to deal with classified information. She had to sign non-disclosure agreements stating she understands the requirements for handling classified information and the repercussions of improperly handling them.

    Here's another fact: It isn't Comey's job to prosecute her. His job was to make the recommendation to Lynch. So there's nothing "partisan" about what was posted; it was all opinion about what Clinton did, based on the rules and requirements for handling classified information. He provided the opinion that Clinton was negligently careless; then he provided the opinion that she shouldn't be prosecuted, although others should.

    So get off your Rev-bashing horse, and treat the situation without bias. You, me, and Rev would be spending time in jail for what happened. Period. Clinton will not. And THAT is what this is really about.
     
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    This is very similar to the FBI's handling of Lois Lerner. Ms Lerner's Internal Revenue Service illegally targeted conservative groups, illegally sent 1.5 million pages of tax returns to the Justice Dept, But FBI director Comer recommended no charges be filed.
    As one commentator observed, "Democrats do not indict Democrats".
     
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    So, the only way for Hillary to get another security clearance is to become President? Is that it?

    <Irony>
     
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    Of course. It's yours! Why didn't somebody tell him?
     
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    Then prosecute her. Otherwise this is more partisan horse manure. Was there willful intent to knowingly endanger national security? If he can't prove that, then there was no reason to even bring this up.

    By this logic, a drunk driver having caused a fatal accident could never be prosecuted for anything more serious than Driving While Intoxicated, unless it could be proved that he/she had intentionally crashed into the other vehicle. Gross negligence is often prosecutable.
     
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    Please don't fall for this canard about intent. The law says nothing about determining intent, only determining if the infraction occurred. Comey created that little loophole when he exonerated her based on his determination of her intent.
     
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    I see the DNC operative is out with the latest talking points assigned by the Whitehouse.
     
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    Well, you do it with the GOP daily talking points and post every Drudge Report anti-Obama, anti-Clinton piece that's posted. So why shouldn't someone else provide the Dem talking points?

    Nevertheless I have done no such thing.
     
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    President Hillary could investigate herself and proclaim that 'no reasonable prosecutor would bring a case against me'. After all she's a lawyer and knows about such truck.
     
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    Then answer your own question-- why shouldn't you?
     
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    Why shouldn't I quote Dem talking points? I don't. I just happen to know that with the law, intent always plays a vital role. That's why we have different degrees of i.e., murder.

    If the intent was not there to willfully put the United States in harms way, this again becomes just what I'd said from the beginning: a witch-hunt designed to embarrass and bring her down a notch from running away with the Presidency.

    And Trey Gowdy confirmed that with Behghazi.
     
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    That's politics, like it or not. Watergate, White Water, Iran/Contra, Monica Lewinski...they're all about destroying someone politically.
     
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    I agree. That's why I don't have much use if any for any of them.
     
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    I disagree. I dislike mitchell's partisan unGodliness that he thinks doubles for God's truth. I like him just fine. And when he starts acting like the shepherd of God's sheep instead of the shepherd of the GOP sheep, then I'll refer to him as such.

    Ok.

    I disagree. It was partisan that there was a press conference. Unprecedented,
    It was partisan that he starts to speak his opinion as opposed to issues of the law.

    He's the FBI director investigating a possible crime. No one asked for his opinions.
    Again, it's not his place to offer his opinions on investigations into violations of the law. It's unprofessional and NOT what he was tasked with doing.

    Nope. He provided his findings in accordance of the law. Stating his opinion about carelessness has nothing to do with whether or not an indictable offense has taken place.

    Speaking to what her intent was based upon his findings is acceptable because he again is dealing with the law. Providing an opinion about her being negligently careless was not warranted based upon what he said he found and was indeed partisan. If it had not been a partisan jab, he would have recommended that she be prosecuted. As an issue of the LAW, which is what his job is, he found nothing negligently careless about what she did. If he had, the DOJ would now be prosecuting.

    So either it was a partisan jab or he needs to be removed from office for not doing his job if he believes she was intentionally negligently careless.


    Man hush. You've just got a stick in your craw over me and always seem to find a way to rush in and try to "put me in my place". It's kinda your calling card. And every time I'm sitting here reading what you wrote and thinking you don't have a clue about of what you speak and it's just your way of again getting at me. If you really were trying to be just instead of trying to backhand me on the sly, you would have spoken up the myriad of times that mitchell has referred to me as a "that thing". But by your hypocrisy, you expose yourself like so many others as to what your TRUE intent is.

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    No we wouldn't because there would never have been such a witch-hunt after us coming out of Benghazi.

    And she shouldn't. It's about time you and the rest of the GOP stopped acting so ridiculously stupid. As I said, y'all want to do everything you can to prosecute this woman over some stupid emails and a server. But the many of you are constantly looking for excuses to rationalize the behavior of murdering police officers.

    Just another reason why Christians should be ashamed of associating themselves with the GOP madness. Many of you can get all up in arms over some stupid emails or some dogs, but God forbid you provide free summer lunches for poor kids without busting a gasket.:rolleyes:
     
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