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Featured Police Fatally Shoot Man During Traffic Stop, Aftermath Video Posted July 6, 2016 11:22 PM

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Zaac, Jul 7, 2016.

  1. Zaac

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    MINNEAPOLIS (WCCO) — A 32-year-old man has died after an officer-involved shooting Wednesday night in Falcon Heights.

    Philando Castile’s mother, Valerie Castile, says he died at Hennepin County Medical Center just before 9:40 p.m.

    St. Anthony Police said in a press release that officers pulled over a vehicle at Larpenteur Avenue and Fry Street at about 9 p.m. They said “shots were fired” during the traffic stop, and a handgun was recovered at the scene. The Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension is investigating.

    Castile’s family says his girlfriend, Diamond Reynolds, and her 4-year-old daughter were in the car at the time. Reynolds was taken into custody Wednesday night.

    The video above, filmed by Reynolds under the Facebook account for Lavish Reynolds, began circulating on Facebook shortly after the shooting, but was pulled from the site before midnight.

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    Crowd gathers at site of Philando Castile shooting. (credit: CBS)

    Reynolds, who was in the front passenger seat, says in the video that they were pulled over for a broken tail light. She says police asked Castile, who was driving, for his license and registration.

    She says as Castile was reaching for his wallet, he informed officers that he had a firearm in his possession, and a conceal-and-carry permit.

    Reynolds says in the video that an officer then shot her boyfriend four times.

    The officer in the video at one point screams, “I told him not to reach for it! I told him to get his hand out …”

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    Philando and Valerie Castile (credit: Castile Family)

    Reynolds tells the officer, “You told him to get his I.D., sir, his driver’s license.”

    She pans the cellphone camera over Castile, who is covered in blood.

    “Oh my God, please don’t tell me he’s dead. Please don’t tell me my boyfriend just went like that,” Reynolds said.

    The officer, whose gun is drawn the entire time, tells Reynolds to, “Keep your hands where they are.”

    “Yes I will, sir, I’ll keep my hands where they are,” she said.

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    Crowds gather at scene of Philando Castile’s shooting (credit: CBS)

    Reynolds is then told to get out of the car. Her cellphone shows several officers with guns drawn, and one officer holding her daughter, who was in the back seat of the car when Castile was shot.

    Valerie Castile told WCCO that her son was a cafeteria supervisor at J.J. Hill Montessori School in St. Paul. He would have turned 33 on July 16.

    Sgt. Jon Mangseth, St. Anthony Police’s interim chief, told reporters late Wednesday night that he was aware of the Facebook video, but not of its content.

    “[We haven’t had an] officer-involved shooting in, you know, 30 years or more. I’d have to go back in the history books, to tell you the truth,” Mangseth said.

    He later stated in a brief press conference early Thursday morning that the officer who shot Castile has been placed on standard paid administrative leave.

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    Nekima Levy-Pounds and Philando Castile’s family at HCMC (credit: CBS)

    The St. Anthony Police Department provides police services for the neighboring cities of Falcon Heights and Lauderdale.

    Castile’s family and friends gathered at Hennepin County Medical Center in Minneapolis late Wednesday night, and were later joined by Minneapolis NAACP President Nekima Levy-Pounds and other community activists.

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    Memorial at Philando Castile’s shooting site. (credit: CBS)

    An estimated 200 people were gathered at the shooting site in Falcon Heights at 1:30 a.m. Police started towing cars soon after, and most people left by 2:30 a.m.

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    Crowds watch as Philando Castile’s car is towed. (credit: CBS)

    Protesters then began to gather at the Governor’s Mansion in St. Paul after 2 a.m.
     
  2. Smyth

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    1) A man breaks the law, causing an encounter with police.
    2) The man has a gun, raising the dangers in a police encounter.
    3) The man may or may not have cooperated with police instructions.
    4) The man is shot.
    5) The racist and the prejudiced insist the shooting was racial.
    5) The man's family will collect millions of dollars in a settlement.
    6) The officer that did the shooting will be convicted if there's proof he did anything wrong.
     
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    I'm going to call Philando Castile out as a thug. He has a massive record of driving violations. His online postings are full fo racist rants. I have no doubt that he gave the officer an attitude that made the officer nervous, giving the officer reason to think the thug was reaching for the gun.

    I think probably the officer shouldn't have shot. But, I think the officer is guilty of nothing more than minor negligence. Castile is the cause of his own death by repeatedly putting police in stressful situations, until Castile's luck ran out.
     
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    Proof please. That is not the person I have read about and I have done a fair amount of research non Philando.

    From: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...an-adored-school-cafeteria-manager/?tid=sm_fb

    Before he was fatally shot Wednesday by a police officer in Minnesota, before his name became a hashtag, Philando Castile was known as a warm and gentle presence at J.J. Hill Montessori Magnet School, where he managed the cafeteria.

    He was there when children streamed into school for breakfast in the morning, playing music and bantering. He was there when they returned for lunch: Laughing with kids, urging them to eat more vegetables, helping keep order in his easygoing way.

    And so it is difficult for anyone at J.J. Hill to understand why he won’t be there anymore, and how he could be gone.

    “We’re just devastated,” said Anna Garnaas, who teaches first-, second- and third-graders at the school, located in St. Paul, Minn. “He just loved the kids, and he always made sure that they had what they needed. He knew their names, he knew what they liked, he knew who had allergies. And they loved him.”
     
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    That makes no sense. A man is DEAD because he was attempting to do what the officer told him to do and you think it's nothing more than MINOR negligence?

    Your comments should be the poster boy for why people of color say that the many in the white majority undervalue and marginalize the worth of their lives. :CautiousWhat you just displayed is part of the problem with the police officers who keep MURDERING these folks. They look at them and think their lives aren't to be valued in the way you would someone who is white.

    A minor negligence. THAT is one of the most disgusting things I think I've ever read.

    And he could have a rap sheet that stretched from Florida to California. That is NOT cause to MURDER him just because the officer's mindset was obviously like yours in seeing a thug whose life didn't matter.

    I stand corrected. THIS is one of the most disgusting things I think I've ever read. And it's people just like you with your mentality that these police departments are hiring. It's people just like you who undervalue and marginalize the lives of these "thugs" who are being hired as officers who turn around and MURDER.
     
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    Again, sheer stupidity. How many white people walk away from this same type of encounter every day? Some of you with blinders on are constantly using this excuse of "if he had just cooperated".

    White folks don't cooperate with the police every day. But you don't see incident after incident after incident after incident of the police shooting them dead for not cooperating.
     
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    Police kill more white people than black people.

    The media doesn't care when a white person is killed by police.
     
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    There are a lot more White people than Black people.

    And you have not shows your links where you slandered the murder man.
     
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    We don't know what happened leading up to the shooting. And, I'm not racist enough to assume that anyone with white skin must be acting out of racism. We know the man who was shot was a racist thug. That's not a conclusion based on race, but on his racist rants and numerous encounters with the police.

    Have you never made a mistake on the job, especially if someone was putting you in a tough situation?
     
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    It doesn't matter what happened. It doesn't matter what his jacket looks like. They MURDERED that man.

    There is nothing any more racist about his rants than has been racist about your rants. Rants and encounters with police should not be a death sentence.

    And I'll say it again. time and time again, you see white people arguing with the police and doing everything but complying. Yet they rarely seem to end up dead. And I believe the reasoning is because of something you displayed: an undervaluing and marginalization of the worth of that life because YOU believed him to be a racist thug with a spurious criminal history.

    If there is a race war in this country, THAT is why it will take place. You have demonstrated that you cared as little about that life taken as obviously did the cops who took it. And that is a shameless thing for someone who says they are a follower of Jesus Christ.

    If he's done something that wrong, give him his day in court as is done with the many, many white people.

    Stop this foolishness about a mistake. There is a systemic problem in police departments across this country. And it derives from the same attitude that you displayed which quickly marginalized and undervalued the life of the man killed because of what you viewed him as.

    It remains disgusting and should be placed at the foot of the Cross.:Thumbsdown
     
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    Please post links to his racist rants. We can wait.

    As to "numerous encounters with police" he has a bunch of citations like no proof of insurance, no muffler, seat belt violation, driving after revocation of license, etc.

    This tough situation would be pulling a person over for a broken taillight. Yeah, that's a very rare and challenging part of the job for a police officer. Real tough. A person with a woman and a little girl in the car. Better draw your gun, huh?

    This "mistake" as you so flippantly call it was fatal. A man is dead. Dead.



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    If you've done any research, then you uncovered how many times Castile been pulled over or arrested? If you've done any research then you're familiar with his online writings? Or, does your research just consist of consuming media propaganda that he was warm and fuzzy?

    The officer is presumed innocent until evidence to the contrary. And, sorry, his skin color doesn't cost him the presumption of innocence, at least to those of us who aren't racially prejudiced.

    Philando Castile was a racist thug, and I have no trouble believing that he caused his own death by possessing a gun while being threatening toward the officer.
     
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    So that justifies murder? What is wrong with some of you? How many white people have the police killed in the manner that they have these black people over the last few years?Don't be black and play with a toy gun. Don't be black and sell cigarillos. Don't be black and sitting in your car with your child and child's mother with a busted taillight. Don't be black and looking at guns in WalMart.

    I think what Jesse Williams said was poignant.

    The police need to provide a list of things for which black people can now be spontaneously murdered because said list obviously grows longer every day.

    White people aren't being killed by the police for the crazy things they continue to kill black people over.

    And I say again, the reason for this is what YOU demonstrated. A lot of these police officers undervalue the lives of black and brown people for the same reason you do. And in turn their lives mean less, and it's okay to not refrain from using deadly force on the savages.
     
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    A man is dead because he was a racist thug who put a cop in a bad position. I ask again, have you never made a mistake, especially when pushed into a bad position?
     
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    You don't know anything about how white people are being killed by police.
     
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    Since you're all current on this research please post some links.



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    He could have a rap sheet 2 feet deep and it's STILL irrelevant to what the police officers did. Give him his day in court. You don't just shoot someone dead in the manner that they did. But they did it because of the same disregard for that man as a fellow human being that you're showing. You somehow seem to think that his past record is reason to disregard the value of his life. Thus you undervalue and marginalize the value and meaning of his life in the same way as the officers. And will ALWAYS look for a reason to justify their murderous actions.

    And here is the crux of this. You immediately start talking about the officers rights and presumption of innocence. What about the rights of the dead man? When will he get to stand before a judge and be presumed innocent until otherwise proven guilty? This is part of the problem with all of these police shootings is that so many of you want to give the officers a pass and a presumption of innocence until otherwise proven. But you downright refuse to admit that the dead person should have been afforded the same right to due process instead of being murdered.

    SHAMELESS!


    Just disgusting.
     
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    Go to Google. In the search box type in the thug's name followed by "police record" and you'll get lots of links. It's not hard.
     
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    Why don't I know? Do I not have access to the same information that you do? You ain't concerned with any of that. Your racial prejudice is on display and it is the VERY SAME type of racial prejudice/racism that causes police officers to undervalue and marginalize the lives of these, in your words, "racist thugs" they keep murdering.
     
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    Pathetic attempt at deflection. A mistake is faxing a document with a paper clip attached. This so-called mistake is potentially murder.
     
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