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Black GOP Senator Talks About Being Pulled Over By Police 7 Times In One Year

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  1. Crabtownboy

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    In the course of one year as an elected official, Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) was pulled over seven times by law enforcement. Another time, a Capitol Police officer demanded that Scott show him his ID because the special pin on Scott’s suit jacket ― a pin assigned to United States senators ― evidently wasn’t enough.

    Scott shared these stories and more Wednesday evening during a roughly 18-minute speech on the Senate floor. He is the only black senator in the Republican conference, and one of just two in the upper chamber.

    Scott’s address on Wednesday came after four other senators urged their colleagues to take a vote on criminal justice reform ― something many lawmakers say is badly needed.

    “There is a deep divide between the black community and law enforcement ― a trust gap,” Scott said. “We cannot ignore these issues. Because while so many officers do good ― and we should be very thankful in support of all those officers that do good ― some simply do not. I’ve experienced it myself.”

    Scott said he chose to talk about his encounters with police, experiences that left him feeling humiliated and “very scared,” because he’s heard people trying to paint Castile and Walter Scott ― a black man who was killed by a police officer in South Carolina last year while running away ― as criminals.



    “OK, then,” Scott said. “I will share with you some of my own experiences.”

    He continued:

    I shuddered when I heard Eric Garner say “I cannot breathe.” I wept when I watched Walter Scott turn and run away and get shot and killed. And I broke when I heard the 4-year-old daughter of Philando Castile’s girlfriend tell her mother, “It’s OK, I’m right here with you”...

    In the course of one year, I’ve been stopped seven times by law enforcement officers. Not four, not five, not six, but seven times in one year as an elected official. Was I speeding sometimes? Sure. But the vast majority of the times, I was pulled over for nothing more than driving a new car in the wrong neighborhood, or some other reason just as trivial...

    It’s easy to identify a U.S. senator by our pin. I recall walking into an office building just last year after being here for five years on the Capitol, and the officer looked at me, with a little attitude, and said: “The pin, I know. You, I don’t. Show me your ID.” I’ll tell you, I was thinking to myself, “Either he thinks I’m committing a crime, impersonating a member of Congress” ― or, or what? Well, I’ll tell you that later that evening I received a phone call from his supervisor apologizing for the behavior. Mr. President, that is at least the third phone call that I’ve received from a supervisor or the chief of police since I’ve been in the Senate.
     
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    Was this meant to be a "complaint" ctb ... or a testimony? Seven times in one year, and he was not shot, beat up, or arrested. That tells me that the cops are not as evil as you and others want us to believe they are. BTW, I'm interested in knowing why he was pulled over seven times. Sounds like the man may have a problem with obeying traffic laws?!

    Thanks for showing us that not all black men are being killed by over zealous, racist, biased, prejudicial, prejudging cops.
     
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    Scott says he was left "feeling humiliated and scared." I have been pulled over too, and felt humiliated, embarrassed, scared, intimidated, singled out and angry (with the cop for catching me, and myself for being Caught) following my traffic stops. I also felt the same when a neighbor called about my dog barking or music being too loud. And I'M WHITE!
     
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    Blacks have such a lock on power that even a womanizing crack-smoker can be elected mayor, if black. The mayor is black. A high percent of the police department is black (Currently, the chief is a white woman, but earned her cred by being a high school dropout. The previous chief was black). I wish Tim Scott had shared the race of the officers who have stopped him. If the police are pulling Sen. Tim Scott over for being black, blame the black people who run the city.

    Why was he pulled over so much?

    1) Self-fulfilling prophecy. Sen. Scott tells of being pulled over after making four left turns. He was testing the police, which made the police suspicious. The officer claims he didn't signal on the fourth left, maybe his desire to prove he's a victim caused him to fail to signal. If he had just been "white" and drove straight home, he wouldn't have been stopped.

    2) Blacks commit 95% (if someone has a better number...) of the street crimes in Washington DC. Why should any officer be blamed for unconscious but reasonable racial profiling? Bring down black crime and this problem will go away.

    3) Anyone near government buildings in DC is more likely to be pulled over. There's a high number of police in the area.
     
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    My boss was pulled over for the same reason -
    Except the boss was white and he was in a black neighborhood.
     
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    As a father teaching my kids to drive, I told my kids to expect to be profiled.
    They would not get the same treatment as older drivers until they earned it.

    Legislators should be acquainted with the laws they make.
    They designed the laws to exclude them and hold a privileged position above the law.
    Still he complains of "feeling humiliated and scared", hogwash!

    The Senator acknowledges breaking laws designed to control common citizenry and accuses law enforcement of criminal profiling including racial factoring.

    Welcome to the real world Senator

    Rob
     
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    And here again we have privilege totally trying to dismiss someone else's experience.

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    Just pure foolish.
    He told you why.

    Thanks for showing us that your still you.

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    I think we all carry prejudice of some type. We have to work to change our inherent weakness towards it.... xenophobia.

    As a third generation American I've been assimilated into the system and am accepted for what I am rather than who my people were.

    But I've worked in a busy city hospital I am well acquainted with racial prejudice.
    You see, it works both ways...

    Rob
     
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    Racial profiling by police, black and white alike, will never stop until the crime stats change. It is what it is.
     
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    And here you go again with the privilege of totally trying to dismiss evidence that doesn't support your racial bias . According to the Bureau of Justice Statistics (that's our government), in 2011 13% of black drivers were stopped and 10% of white drivers were stopped (1). Imagine that, 87% of black drivers were not stopped once in an entire year.

    These blacks who get pulled over a lot are doing something other than being black. Like maybe they're driving with a broken tail light (revoked licence, bag of weed in the car, gun in their lap, looking like a "brother" who committed armed robbery, etc.). Or, they're driving around the block in circles getting the attention of the cops in one of the most secure places in the country and then saying "See, I'm getting stopped for being black.
     
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    That breaks down to 19,700,000 whites stopped and 4,900,000 blacks stopped. Considering the lopsided crime stats, that's better than I thought it would be. Great job by the police, nationwide.
     
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    Well, I guess Scott was saying that the cops watch him until they think he's done something wrong, and they very well could be - I think if a cop is following you for blocks, like the time when he said he was coming home from the mall, they can rattle you and find something you did wrong.

    And he's right, there is a racial divide on how the police are viewed in America. Blacks tend to view them as corrupt and oppressive, while whites look at them more like keepers of the peace. I just wish blacks realized that the cops are government, too, this is the only area that in which they don't like big government.

    His speech was heartfelt and defined the issue well but it seems a little short on solutions - what is the senator's answer to the problem? Black cops treat blacks with more suspicion, so that's not it.

    The pin incident was more of a matter of Scott not having the proper ID in a highly secured area but that Capitol Hill guy must be pretty dense - TWO black Senators, and he can't recognize one of them when he's right in front of his face with an official pin. Some officer.
     
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    The claim that being "black" resulted in one shot motorist being stopped over 50+ times in a little over a decade or a GOP congressman being stopped 7 times is soundly refuted by the fact that the vast majority of black drivers go an entire year without being stopped. But, instead of being honest and admitting this, you move onto another Leftist lie.

    Castile was stopped so many times because he was a punk, not because he was black. The last time he was stopped, he had a broken tail light, marijuana in the car, and a gun in his lap. The GOP senator was stopped so man times because he drove in one of the most policed districts in America, and he'd even bait police to stop him.

    Blacks are pulled over more often, but not anything close to the frequency Liberals claim. Blacks are stopped more often, not because of police racism, but because blacks are relatively lawless in their driving. Blacks are stopped more often even by black officers and in police departments and cities governed by blacks and black voters. Would you explain why the GOP senator was stopped so often in a city and police dept. governed by blacks? Or why Freddie Gray died in the back of a police van in a city governed by blacks, with black mayor and black police chief, and where the only person charged with his murder by a black prosecutor was a black officer? No, the Left just pretends everyone behind killing black drivers is white and the Left just pretends that every black driver shot was unarmed and cooperative. The Left is political racism.
     
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    Yeah?

    "Was I speeding sometimes? Sure. But the vast majority of the times, I was pulled over for nothing more than driving a new car in the wrong neighborhood, or some other reason just as trivial..."

    What is a "vast majority of the times" out of 7?.... 6?-- that's 86%.... 5?-- that is 71%, which is not considered a "vast majority" in any description I know. And since he admits he was speeding "sometimes," [not time (singular)] that's already 2 or more speeding stops. So of those 4, or less, times of being stopped for something "trivial," what would they be? Why isn't he more specific, as well as more than 'trivial' with his numbers. I don't know anyone who says less than 3 quarters is a "vast" majority.
     
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