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Breitbart/Gravis Poll: Hillary Clinton Leads Donald Trump 42% to 37 ...

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Crabtownboy, Aug 15, 2016.

  1. Crabtownboy

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    You know the Trump campaign is in big trouble when Breitbart says he is loosing.

    From: http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presi...-hillary-clinton-leads-donald-trump-42-to-37/

    Democratic nominee Hillary R. Clinton leads in a four-way contest with 42 percent of the vote, compared to Donald J. Trump with 37 percent, Libertarian Gary Johnson with 9 percent, and 3 percent for Green Party nominee Dr. Jill Stein, according to a Breitbart/Gravis national poll conducted Aug. 9 with 2,832 likely voters.
     
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    Yes, and notice they run with the four-way results instead of the Trump-Clinton head to head matchup in order to soften the blow to Trump.

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    could be that those two candidates will be on the ballot (in most States/Commonwealths) -but the question - who will they be taking votes away from?
     
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    Johnson pulls votes about the same from both candidates. Stein pulls votes from Clinton. Therefore, in a two way head-to-head race, Clinton's lead would be greater than in a four way race.
     
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    The word is losing. Trump has staff who do their own polling. He's more than 10 points ahead in Florida and Pa. And he's at least 5 points ahead in Ca.

    The Clinton Crime Family is super worried that Donald will win big time. Despite the onslaught of anti-Trump lies being spewed from all the mainstream media 24/7 the Donald is really winning. He's about to turn on the juice in September. Hillary has been wasting millions in her negative ad campaigns.

    Donald Trump will get around 60% of the vote in November if the dirty tricks by the D-side are minimized.
    Hillary will get about 30% --if she's still living by then. Her health is terrible. Her running mate may have to select a running mate!
    The also-rans will get 10% combined once November rolls around.
     
  6. InTheLight

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    Is that what he's saying? The man is delusional.


    Hey Everybody, Trump is Ahead in California!!

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    M-m-m-m, that's good Kool Aid, huh?
     
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    And in States/Commonwealths with the Constitution Party - they will probably take votes from Trump.
     
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    I have some leftover antipsychotics from a recent medication change. Does anyone want some? I think it might be a good idea. Delusions are a difficult thing; I know.
     
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    When Breitbart cherry picks a poll and even their handpicked poll shows Hillary leading by 5 points, it's not good for Trumpies.
     
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    I always find it interesting that third party candidates are framed as taking away votes from candidate a or b. Since when are Candidate A or B entitled to any vote, that could be taken away. It's my vote to give to whomever I choose, not a specific candidates vote that I then take from them.
     
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    Biased media. Trump is really winning by 500%.
     
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    Just because this site leans right doesn't mean the polls will. Gravis is okay, but wish they had never hooked up with Brettbart - that site is glitchy beyond belief, I try never to go there.

    And, as usual, they don't post their internals. They may have asked about a heads-up but they don't publish that, either. The sample size must have cost them over 70k to do, why would they want to do one that big?

    But Johnson in particular will never poll that high - the +5 Clinton is believable but without the internals known, may or may not be true.
     
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    Yeah, I tried to find their methodology but couldn't find it. I figured they must have done a head-to-head matchup with Trump and Clinton, so where is it?
     
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    Wow, I didn't realize this partnership just started on August 1, 2016:

    https://twitter.com/GravisMarketing

    But Gravis has been doing scads of polls the whole time, and they made a big deal of posting their internals here:

    http://gravismarketing.com/polling-and-market-research/current-national-polling/

    Hillary +2 heads-up about two months ago, so it's worthless. FWIW, there has been a lot of criticism of Gravis from the left:

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/05/21/the_worst_poll_in_america.html

    you don't want a poll to lie to you unless you truly are delusional, else you might be caught Election Night without a concession speech.
     
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    Granted, some who vote 3rd party may not have voted at all - but some would have vote for one of the major party candidates.

    However it is possible that a 3rd party candidate could throw the election to the other major party candidate. In fact, I made a post/poll on this. Click here for that post.
     
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