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Featured Wikileaks Confirms Hillary Sold Weapons To ISIS

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  1. Revmitchell

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    Although Hillary Clinton has repeatedly denied that she sold weapons to the Islamic Stats while serving as Secretary of State, Wikileaks founder Julian Assange claims he has proof to the contrary. Thepoliticalinsider.com reported: In Obama’s second term, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton authorized the shipment of American-made arms to Qatar, a country beholden to the Muslim Brotherhood, and friendly to the Libyan rebels, in an effort to topple the Libyan/Gaddafi government, and then ship those arms to Syria in order to fund Al Qaeda, and topple Assad in Syria. Clinton took the lead role in organizing the so-called “Friends of Syria” (aka Al Qaeda/ISIS) to back the CIA-led insurgency for regime change in Syria. Under oath Hillary Clinton denied she knew about the weapons shipments during public testimony in early 2013 after the Benghazi terrorist attack.

    http://redstatewatcher.com/article.asp?id=32072
     
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    Yup,





    But let’s watch the people being suckered into following the washed-up birther issue lead by the media who is consumed with that while this issue gets swept under the rug. :Rolleyes
     
  3. Revmitchell

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    Yea never mind Hillary started the whole thing. Even Obama new this:

    Clinton's 2007 campaign manager Mark Penn circulated a campaign strategy memo in which he suggested attacking Obama for not being "fundamentally American" and targeting then Senator Obama's "lack of American roots."

    http://www.hannity.com/articles/ele...k-obama-campaign-accused-clinton-of-15115423/
     
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    Kurt Nimmo and Alex Jones
    Infowars.com
    August 4, 2013

    In May, Infowars.com posted an article reporting the fact the Benghazi attack and the murder of ambassador Stevens had nothing to do with an absurd anti-Islam video, as the establishment media and the Obama administration insisted, but was directly connected to the shipment of arms from Libya to the mercenaries in Syria and, as Pieczenik explained, a covert struggle between the Pentagon and civilians in the CIA.

    Continue . . . http://www.infowars.com/confirmed-benghazi-was-coverup-of-arms-transfer-to-alqaeda/


    Wonder if the next wikileaks data dump will confirm that the state dept working with George Soros foundations engineered the overthrow of the Ukrainian government then blamed the resulting chaos on a Russian invasion?

    Yeah, I know we know the Russians started it all because the truthful Obama admin and credible corporate media told us so. Just like we know the Benghazi attack was the result of an anti Muslim video.
     
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    Apples and refrigerators, What Obama, Hillary, and the drive by media did was protect this admin from being held accountable for what was doing. Unless you can tie this admin directly to the Ukrainian thing there is nothing similar here with which to make a comparison.
     
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    Say again? It sounded like you just said the drive by media protected the Obama admin from being held accountable but it would never protect the Obama admin from being held accountable. ?
     
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    Ok folks nothing coherent here to see.....move on.
     
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    You can't have it both ways Rev. C'mon don't take your ball and go home already.
     
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    The problem is your characterization of what I said is not even remotely close to what I said. What involvement did Obama have in the Ukraine or Russian taking it over? How is Obama responsible for that?
     
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    You said "What Obama, Hillary, and the drive by media did was protect this admin from being held accountable for what was doing". Sounds like you're admitting that the drive by media protected Obama from being held accountable.

    I'm asking if you believe the drive media protected the Obama admin from being held accountable in one instance why wouldn't you believe the drive by media protected the Obama admin from being held accountable in another instance?

    You can't have it both ways.

    The Obama admin (state dept, Victoria Nuland) and George Soros were tied to the coup right after it went down. I'll find the thread I posted on it as it was happening soon as I have a chance to go through the archives and you can review the evidence and your response to it.
     
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    Please do why would Obama care about the Ukraine?
     
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    I already did. Please explain why you would believe the drive by media is selective in how and when it protects the Obama admin and Hillary Clinton from being held accountable.
     
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    I never said that. Never even implied that. The premise of your statement, I knew Obama was part of the Ukraine take over by Russian and chose to ignore it, is simply not true.
     
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    Then explain what you meant. You got me confused. Either the drive by media protects Obama and Hillary or it doesn't. It's not like I'm asking you to cut your foot off with a rusty hacksaw.

    Do you believe the drive by media protects Obama and Hillary from being held accountable or don't you?
     
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    I do but what is there for them to be held accountable with regards to the Ukraine? Not sure why that is difficult to understand. Since there is nothing to be accountable to with regards to the Ukraine then the stories are not comparable.

    However not all news sources outside of info wars tries to protect Obama.
     
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    New video evidence has been added to the already-conclusive video evidence which shows that the U.S. Government was the controlling power behind the extremely violent and illegal 18-27 February 2014 Ukrainian coup, which overthrew the democratically elected and never legally removed-from-power Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych.

    This new evidence proves, even more than before (if that were even possible to do), that the current regime in Ukraine is definitely illegal — but that’s not all. Even after fake ‘democratic’ elections, it’s the same illegal regime in Ukraine that the U.S. imposed at its February 2014 coup, because no nationwidevote has occurred in Ukraine throughout that country’s expanse after the American coup; it’s still just arump-Ukrainian Government, not one representing the residents either in Crimea or in Ukraine’s far east (neither of which regions participated in Ukrainian elections after the coup) — and yet this illegal violent coup-imposed Ukrainian regime (and the U.S. that imposed it, and even the EU that sheepishly backed it) nonetheless demand (against all legalities) that this blatantly illegal U.S.-imposed Ukrainian Government must control those areas, which reject this nazi imposed Government — that the residents in the regions that had voted overwhelmingly for Yanukovych don’t have the right to self-determination, but must instead accept a coup that goes exactly against, and even has gone so far as to overthrow, the Government for which the residents in those regions had overwhelmingly voted.


    This was a violent takeover of the Ukrainian Government, by profoundly racist anti-Russian nationalist Ukrainians, who were in the pay of the U.S. Government. And, it sparked such terror into the hearts of Russians and of Ukraine’s minorities (who were especially large a proportion of the Crimean population), so that, first, Crimea broke away and declared its no longer being a part of Ukraine (it would return to Russia, of which it had been a part from 1783-1954, almost its entire modern existence); and, then,starting on May 9th of 2014, a Ukrainian civil war broke out when the U.S.-installed Government of Ukraine actually invaded the regions (other than Crimea) that rejected it; and the United States oversaw and sent even more mercenaries to this extremely bloody ethnic cleansing campaign to get rid of the residents in the specific region (called “Donbass” and shown in dark purple on this map) of Ukraine that had voted 90% for Yanukovych.

    CONTINUE . . . http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2015/02/new-video-evidence-americas-coup-ukraine-means.html

    WE went through all this two years ago and your argument hasn't changed a bit "infowars isn't a credible source" even after you admit the drive by media protects Obama and Hillary from being held accountable you still believe the drive by media is credible.

    Look at what the drive by media is doing lately. The media lies, deception and manipulation is off the charts. They have an approval rating lower than congress. Your sources are no longer credible, Rev. and they're no longer credible because they've been caught lying, deceiving and manipulating public opinion over and over and over.

    I've been telling you this for years. And You've always come back with the same argument . . . "infowars isn't credible". The drive by media was never credible and it's gotten way worse since the "modernizatin" of the Smith-Mundt Act.
     
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    Ok posting a video of someone making a claim is not evidence.
     
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    Oiy! See all those blue words in the article? They're links. Click on them.

    What happened to the 2014 archives? How do I get to them?
     
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    There is no formal 2014 Archives. However, some threads seem to have been inadvertently lost in the change in ownership and software last fall.
     
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    That's too bad. I really don't feel up to posting all that evidence again just so the Rev can discount it all with "your sources aren't credible". Ah well. The hacked Soros emalis have some good evidence so that adds to the already large pile.
     
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