Middle TN now the official site of a Mosque

Hey now. Culottes are awesome! They just have to be done right. http://www.saksfifthavenue.com/main/ProductDetail.jsp?PRODUCT<>prd_id=845524446432988

Look up gauchos, split skirts, riding skirts...it's not like culottes are an IFB invention. Well, maybe making them look weird is, but weren't the first culottes mentioned in the bible when the guys picked up their skirts or robes or whatever man-wear it was back then and tied them together in the middle to do certain work? :smilewinkgrin:

So it's actually a man invention. Mhm.

 

So that's what is wrong with culottes! They are men's clothing and as a woman I naturally dislike them.

 

This thread seems all over the place, but I'll add what I would think would be the first response and focus of the thread.

The mosque is there to serve the needs of the Muslim community, to instruct and build up its members in a false religion, and to convert infidels into a more committed fallen state, supported by a community with all its peer pressure and seeming benefits. We should be concerned about this great increase in influence of those who vehemently deny Christ and the open door to radical elements of the religion. The battle for the truth of the gospel, the knowledge of the real Jesus, and the war for the souls of everyone in the area has been kicked up a notch.

 

A Christian police officer is being punished for refusing to attend a cultural event at a mosque in Tulsa. This was not an emergency call.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2012/08/1...e-him-go-to-mosque-for-event/?test=latestnews

Sometimes, it seems like religious freedom doesn't apply both directions.

 

Are non-Christian officers punished if they refuse to attend these kinds of functions in the Christian context?

 

If he were a homo refusing to attend a Law Enforcement Appreciation Day at a Family Research Council center, no. He would be hailed as a champion of civil rights.

 

>A Christian police officer is being punished for refusing to attend a cultural event at a mosque in Tulsa. This was not an emergency call.

Was it on his normal work shift? If so. he should have gone. Would he have been paid over time? If so, he should have gone.

Was in in violation of his union contract? If so, he should not have gone. No contract? He made his bed and can sleep in it.

 

It was presented as a choice, according to the news report, but then made mandatory at a later date. It was a casual event by the mosque to show appreciation and thus pretty much just an open invite for them to come in, have stuff from the buffet, available tours of the place, and apparently "encouraged to ask questions."

The officer cited it as a problem for him to attend since he would not be allowed to share his faith, but it seemed there would be a presentation of the non-truth involved and he wouldn't be allowed to express his own views.

In other words, officers seemed expected to listen to a presentation of THAT faith but had to stay mum about the Christian faith.

Sounds to me like the department wanted to make themselves look good/make sure not to anger anyone by having a poor turnout in return to an invitation, but too many officers didn't want to go so they decided to force it. That's what it sounds like. I'm not a mind reader, but looking at all the reports, it sure appears that way. Why must we continually pacify that religion at the expense of living out our own faith? Ugh.

 

Why indeed???

Because it's PC, and liberals are all for PC, regardless of the asininity of it.
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From Wikipedia:

The US Federal Government has been dumping thousands of "immigrant" Muslims into communities all over America for years.

If anyone cares to read the entire article about our Bill of Rights - it is here:

http://catchkevin.com/islam-not-protected/

We are on the road to the Islamatization of America and people are too politically correct to see the danger. It is not a religion. It is a political system cloaked in the guise of "religion."

 

As a uniformed representative of the government of the City of Tulsa, he should NOT be sharing his faith. If he wishes to do so, out of uniform, on his own time, that is also his right. An officer is part of the executive branch of civil government, and must equally serve all people, without favoring one religion over another. He should receive disciplinary action.

 

> The rise has been driven in part by the arrival of refugees from Somalia and Kurds from Iraq, who were resettled there by the federal government after fleeing the repression of Saddam Hussein after the first Gulf War. Middle Tennessee now has the largest population of Iraqi Kurds in the US

Interesting. There has been a public housing project in north Everett since WW2. About the time of the USSR collapse the Housing Authority moved all the residents out for the purpose of renovating the buildings. All of a sudden the units were mostly filled with refugees from the USSR. Some say it was a deal between the CIA and the Russian Army.

When our youngest kids were in Junior High, Everett was very white very blue collar (Boeing workers), and very civilized. When they got to high school they said the Russian kids were pushy but not dangerous. Our largest minorities were the Russian, Ukrainian, and Korean people. There is a very large Russian Orthodox congregation here and Everett stayed civilized for the next 15 or so years.

The north end is now going down hill fast. I think it is (also) happening by the intent of the local government.

 

But why make an invitation a choice, then change it to being a non-choice? If they aren't to be involved in religion, what sense does it make to force them to attend a religious event...not for a job, not to protect anyone, but because the religion asked them to come for an appreciation dinner?

Does this mean that my church can simply hold something called an appreciation event, and all the officers in my area should be required to attend? Great way to get the word out about Christ, right? Just invite them and make sure a friend or two in the department changes the invite to mandatory and then they HAVE to come to my church. Woo-hoo! Perfectly moral way to go about things.

I wonder what would have happened if one of the officers who was part of the mosque refused the same thing on an invitation from a Christian church? I get the feeling they'd never have been forced to say yes and if they had even mentioned it could happen, there's be a LOT more outrage going on, full investigations by the highest ups, and the department would be issuing the officer an apology, a raise, a settlement, and likely a promotion to make up for the mere idea of it all.

 

Thank you, Lady Eagle, for the info and the link.

I agree with Gina B that the circumstances would be entirely different if this involved a Muslim officer and a Christian church. We've seen many examples of similar one-sided supposed rights in this country, and I expect there are many more examples, the knowledge of which the media is controlling.

At first glance, the argument chosen for the suit seemed a little odd to me, that the officer would not be free to share his faith, though that in itself does violate his right to free speech and religion. I'd think the fact that his beliefs may forbid him from taking part in the activities of another religion--one with which his faith is strongly at odds--would be be enough to win the case as well. In any event, no person, government employee or not, should be forced to support another religion, nor to surrender his beliefs. In this case, accommodations could have been made easily--simply permission not to attend.

If anything, for those enthralled with the idea of "separation of church and state," police officers, as government workers, should not favor religions by attending religious services and events while on duty.

 

Christian girl with Down syndrome could face death penalty over burning of Islamic text in Pakistan

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/0...-penalty-for-allegedly-burning/#ixzz2463UqhCJ Is there a differences in their "religion" here?

 

Sure, that is the Pakistani government not something the Muslim religion is doing.

It is deplorable - but not anything to do with this mosque in Murfreesboro.

This is one reason I think we need to protect Muslim freedom of worship - the US is NOT Pakistan. This is what happens when there is no freedom of religion.

 

That makes two of us! And I am proud to say it!

 

You are correct Lady Eagle. The people in this country have become so politically correct they are like the frog in a pot of water set on a hot stove!

I believe that Islam could be representative of the beast and the false prophet of Revelation. And I am not a dispensationalist!

 

Old Ben Franklin and George Whitefield certainly welcomed 'Mahometanism.' Were they just being politically correct?

LINK

 

"Certainly?" You're citing Franklin's use of hyperbole as unmitigated fact about his and Whitefield's thoughts on Islam?

Nothing was said of Whitefield's thoughts BTW.