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Discussion in 'Calvinism & Arminianism Debate' started by steaver, Jan 20, 2015.

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  1. DHK

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    Then you wouldn't mind providing that link, or giving it again.
    Evidence of your word would be good to provide, not just calling me a liar.
     
  2. savedbymercy

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    I don't know where it is , and if I did, I still would not provide it, you would have to look for it, and yes you are lying !
     
  3. steaver

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    And this means ??? He's a liar? He's deceived? He's not a true Calvinist?
     
  4. OldRegular

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    Look it up and draw your own conclusions.
     
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    Baiting questions....
     
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    it means you are doing this;
    Proverbs 6:14

    Frowardness is in his heart, he deviseth mischief continually; he soweth discord.

    Proverbs 6:19King James Version (KJV)

    19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren
     
  7. BobRyan

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    Point of correction. "She" is a "he".

    in Christ,

    Bob
     
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    Almost echoes this gem:

     
  9. DHK

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    I will reply this one last time to this issue, and no more. You can do with you want with the information provided.
    First, I have asked you many times throughout the past month or two for your testimony. You have refused both to give your testimony or even to give a link to your testimony.
    Second, you claim to have given your testimony within the last couple of years.
    --I did my own personal search going back more than two years. I found no evidence of any such testimony.
    Third, I personally believe that the reluctance to give any evidence of one's salvation puts a question in the minds of others as to the genuineness of one's salvation. Every believer ought to be eager to share their salvation.

    In conclusion, No I did not lie. I did look. I found no evidence.
    Therefore, in order for you to back up your claim that you have indeed given your testimony you are the one that must back up your claim. Otherwise, those reading here would simply conclude that it is an unsubstantiated claim, and that is all.
     
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    Before you cast stones know what you are doing. I was responding to the above statement by DHK. Perhaps you do know!
     
  11. Jerome

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    Huh? Why wouldn't I know you were responding to him?
     
  12. OldRegular

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    Then to be honest you should have compared DHK's remark to that of the kyredneck. But why expect honesty on a Christian Forum?

     
  13. savedbymercy

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    dhk

    And I gave it to you a couple of years ago after having been hounded by you about it, So I am not giving it to you again, if you want it, look for it, and thats final, if you dont find it, then thats too bad, you should have saved it, other than that see you at the Judgment !
     
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    Just out of curiosity, and in no way trying to enforce DHK's question, but merely asking one of my own...

    Why would you not share your testimony? I would be incredibly welcoming of any opportunity to share my testimony of what the Lord has done, is doing, and will do for me. Every professing Christian I have ever known loves to share their testimony. Like the old song says, "I love to tell the story..."
     
  15. steaver

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    My take on those who will not gladly share their coming to Christ is one of two things.

    (1) They do not have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ, don't understand what others are talking about when they say they have a personal knowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord and Saviour, and is IN them, which is the born-again experience. They only possess limited head knowledge of what has been written in the Scriptures. The Scriptures are not alive for them, they are just another religion written by men, even if they claim to follow the bible.

    (2) if one is a Calvinist, 99% of the time their testimony of coming to Christ involved a prayer asking Jesus Christ to come into their lives and save them. Later, when they are coerced into believing Calvinism, their testimony conflicts with Calvinism so they do not like to share it.
     
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    Well, I looked it up, it seems there is a squibble among your people over some nit picky items. So, conclusion is, SBM is a Calvinist, so your request to name one Calvinist who says TULIP is the Gospel stands answered. In fact, I didn't read anywhere where TULIP verses the Gospel was even part of the "Hyper" argument.
     
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    Yes, Spurgeon is another one OR who proclaimed Calvinism to be the very Gospel.
     
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    Sigh. I did...

    You wrote:

    I replied to your assessment, lamenting that the same kind of statement has been expressed elsewhere on the BB:

    Hope that helps.
     
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    While you are rehashing those ugly quotes over and over again--and I do hope you will stop--I hope you will recognize at least this one:
    http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2185697&postcount=77
     
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    Sorry, I was just taken aback by ORB's insinuations ["Then to be honest you should have. . . .But why expect honesty on a Christian Forum?] apparently based on misunderstanding.
     
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