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Thanks brother. We had some good fellowship, then all gathered around her and prayed for her. She's had a rough life, but the Lord is with her.

 

Tell you what. This conversation has departed so far from the OP, and gotten so personal, I'm going to put you on my ignore list. Sayonara. :wavey:

 

I recently checked out Columbia again. I learned that they give 6 free credits, called "ministry-experience credits," for one year of ministry. That would give me, let's see, 234 credits without cracking a book! I could probably get another master's and maybe a PhD and ThD with that--as long as I pay their fees. :smilewinkgrin:

No, wait, those credits don't apply to the doctoral program. For that I have to let them know what projects I've completed. Let me see, Japanese NT translation--check. A bunch of syllabi and study notes in Japanese--check. A couple of books in Japanese--check. Yeah, I could still probably pick up the PhD and ThD, as long as I paid their fees. Yahoo, I'm on my way to an easy doctorate!

Look, you being in seminary, do you really want people like me to get degrees without working for them? I worked hard for my BA and MA, as I'm sure you're working hard for your degree. Ministry experience and academic accomplishments are apples and oranges.

 

Yeah, probably. I was being facetious. My point is that if they are so great, why are they allowing these "ministry-experience" credits? People with a genuine, accredited doctorate call that a sign of a degree mill.

Don't take it from me. Just ask some of the guys with genuine doctorates over in the "Baptist Colleges / Seminaries" forum of the BB, like Rhetorician or exscentric, or Greektim with an accredited ThM. Or tell you what, just ask one of your profs with a genuine PhD. :tonofbricks:

I sincerely hope you aren't attracted to that type of school for a further degree. If you are, that mistake will follow you the rest of your career, as it has followed James White, whatever his genuine accomplishments are--and he is a well-versed apologist and debater and author. But he will never be taken seriously in academia.

 

I don't know which SBC schools you mean. A regionally accredited school is not allowed to give out "ministry credits."

As for doing it under an approved mentor, I don't seen anything like that on the CES website. The way it is done is shown in the PDF on the website as a "sample portfolio" here: http://www.columbiaseminary.edu/admissions/

 

I'm entirely in favor of such field work programs. The men in our college are required to do an internship for which they get credit: a pastoral major with a pastor, a missions major on the mission field, and so forth. And such programs usually have an academic component to them--a paper, books to read and so forth.

 

Good for you. You are getting a quality education there.

If you go on for a doctorate, you will be required to learn two foreign languages for theological study, as well as Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic. My son learned German and French for his PhD at Southeastern under David Alan Black. CES has no such requirement, so James White was short-changed when he got his degree there. And there are other areas of academic rigor that a CES degree will not match Southern and other accredited schools.

 

I'm in my office just for this morning, but I'm not seeing the point of this request. It's a pretty general statement. There are 30 miniscules cited in the UBS3 apparatus for the Gospels, but what would be the point of listing them all?

If you would like to start a new thread about the point you are trying to make, I'd be happy to meet you there, but this thread is on p. 20 and they usually get closed at that point. In fact, I'm going to ask that it be closed.

It's been nice talking to you. :wavey: