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Police Use of Deadly Force Is Rare, Scrutiny Has Risen

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    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=101349

    Reopened at my request . . . :laugh:

    Chicago Moms Take to the Street to Prevent Violence, Doing a Better Job than Cops & Gun Control

    Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/co...cago-moms-action-working/#eoL4z9kyGxetcHHC.99

    Secret Recording Catches Cop Plotting to Kill “that N****r,” and He’s Still on the Job

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    Public School Horror: Officials and Police are Torturing Tens of Thousands of Children a Year

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    Frail Grandma Left in Critical Condition, Coma, After Cop Body Slammed her During Traffic Stop

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    Police Chief Hired Multiple Times Despite Long Record of Serial Stalking and Sexual Predation

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    Body Cam Shows What a SWAT Team Sees When they Raid Wrong Home, Flashbang Kids, Kick Cats

    Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/bo...flashbang-kids-kick-cats/#prVAXhVEQW8TlZCJ.99
     
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    Scouts Train to Fight Terrorists, and More

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    IMPERIAL, Calif. — Ten minutes into arrant mayhem in this town near the Mexican border, and the gunman, a disgruntled Iraq war veteran, has already taken out two people, one slumped in his desk, the other covered in blood on the floor.

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    The Explorers program, a coeducational affiliate of the Boy Scouts of America that began 60 years ago, is training thousands of young people in skills used to confront terrorism, illegal immigration and escalating border violence — an intense ratcheting up of one of the group’s longtime missions to prepare youths for more traditional jobs as police officers and firefighters.

    “This is about being a true-blooded American guy and girl,” said A. J. Lowenthal, a sheriff’s deputy here in Imperial County, whose life clock, he says, is set around the Explorers events he helps run. “It fits right in with the honor and bravery of the Boy Scouts.”

    http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/14/us/14explorers.html

    Published: May 13, 2009
     
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    Police Hit Organic Farm with Massive SWAT Raid for No Reason, Taxpayers to be Held Liable

    Arlington, TX — In an effort to protect the citizens of Texas, a massive military-style raid was conducted on the Garden of Eden organic farm and commune.

    On August 2, 2103, nearly two dozen heavily armed SWAT officers stormed this peaceful farm in search of a plant. They found lots of plants, but much to their dismay, they did not find the plant they were looking for.

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    Prior to the raid, these heroes even conducted a flyover of the farm and wrongly determined that the Garden of Eden was an evil pot farm. But they were mistaken. After their 20 soldiers had stormed the garden, the Arlington police found not one single gram of marijuana.

    What they did find, however, was a myriad of fruits and vegetables; and they seized them. After seemingly disgusted in themselves for such an ignorant and ill-conceived plan, the officers heroically proceeded to confiscate, “17 blackberry bushes, 15 okra plants, 14 tomatillo plants … native grasses and sunflowers.”

    Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/fa...nic-tomatoes-weed-raided/#pzkhMBVxfya3y5kr.99

    9 Horrifying Botched Police Raids

    Police departments across the country have been buying up military style equipment for years, and increasingly use "no-knock" raids to arrest suspects accused of drug-crimes.

    But the extremely aggressive tactics often lead to disaster and embarrassment.

    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/9-horrifying-botched-police-raids-2012-2#ixzz3izr9qwGr

    An Epidemic of "Isolated Incidents"

    An interactive map of botched SWAT and paramilitary police raids, released in conjunction with the Cato policy paper "Overkill: The Rise of Paramilitary Police Raids," by Radley Balko.

    http://www.cato.org/raidmap

    http://object.cato.org/sites/cato.org/files/pubs/pdf/balko_whitepaper_2006.pdf

    If "a picture is worth a thousand words", what is this picture saying?

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    http://www.fopmiami.com/

    Related article . . . http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cop-attacks-woman-facebook-posted-video-fellow-cop-beating-handcuffed-man/
     
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    Peter Christ Answers Tough Questions About Ending the War on Drugs

    LEAP co-founder, Captain Peter Christ (Ret.) in an April 8, 2003 television appearance talks about the origins of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition and takes on the hard questions about ending drug prohibition.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yJT1ImT600

    A retired State Trooper and a Narcotics Detective tell why they now oppose the War on Drugs

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXA0UusYGL8
     
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    National Police Misconduct NewsFeed Daily Recap 08-13-15

    Here are the nine reports of police misconduct tracked for Thursday, August 13, 2015:

    Larimer County, Colorado: A deputy was arrested for domestic violence and child abuse. ow.ly/QR3Y6

    Update: Buffalo, New York (First reported 12-17-14): The officer who was suspended for using a baton to beat man on Thanksgiving has been indicted on federal civil rights charges. ow.ly/QR5kK

    Nassau County, Florida: A deputy was arrested and fired for assaulting a jail inmate. ow.ly/QRzUK

    Massachusetts State Police: A trooper was arrested for domestic violence against his live-in girlfriend. ow.ly/QRD21

    Update: Saline County, Arkansas (First reported 05-19-14): The now-former sheriff pled guilty to wire fraud for using campaign funds for personal expenses. ow.ly/QRHrB

    Lee County, Florida: A corporal resigned during an investigation into claims he falsely billed a business for work he didn’t do. ow.ly/QRIbn

    Wayne County, Ohio: A deputy resigned amid allegations he used excessive force against a mentally ill woman. Video was released that showed him drag her by her ankles when she was uncooperative. He was subsequently hired as a Holmes County deputy. ow.ly/QRILk

    Chelsea, Massachusetts: An officer was arrested for repeatedly striking handcuffed suspect and attempting to cover it up. ow.ly/QRLbL

    Webster, Texas: An officer was found not guilty of official oppression. Two other officers await trial for the 2013 incident in which they were alleged to have used excessive force against a man who had a gun. ow.ly/QRMdx

    http://www.policemisconduct.net/national-police-misconduct-newsfeed-daily-recap-08-13-15/
     
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    Originally Posted by carpro View Post
    If you think that you won't have a few bad actors out of a million law enforcement personnel, you're living in a dream world.
    Bad actor cops should be prosecuted just like everyone else and not given special treatment because they have a badge.

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    Perfection will never happen.
    Accountability is what I'm asking for not perfection.

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    Lapses in split second judgement will never go away.
    No it won't but that's not even an issue in most cases. It wasn't an issue in the beating death of Thomas Kelly, it wasn't an issue when James Boyd was killed.

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    Cops are people , too.
    Cops aren't just people. They're people who are given authority over others. This authority isn't to be taken lightly and people who are entrusted with it should be held to the highest standards of ethics and accountability.

    They shouldn't have "cheering sections" that make up excuses as to why they should be treated differently than other citizens

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    Deal with it.
    We all have to deal with it. Some of us deal with by pointing out the fact that there is a problem and try to open a debate about it. Other people deal with it by closing their eyes, making excuses and trying to shut any debate down.


    closed at OP's request.
    Closed Thread

    No sooner than I posted that last line the thread was closed "at the OP's request".

    Was I right or was I right? :laugh:
     
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    SWAT Raids Wrong Home, Force Small Children Out in the Snow, Blame it on the Family

    Pittsburgh, PA — It’s entirely bad enough that heavily militarized police across the country are smashing down doors, nearly every minute of every day, in search of arbitrary substances deemed illegal by the state. However, the paramilitary apparatus which has sprung up in this modern day police state is deadly incompetent.

    Case after case we see SWAT teams kick down doors to homes, shoot dogs, throw grenades at babies, and even kill innocent people because they are at the wrong house, or acting on incorrect information.

    This gross deadly negligence is inflicted upon the citizenry with extreme prejudice, and unapologetically. The latest victims of incompetent police violence happen to live in Pittsburgh, PA.

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    After throwing four small children and their parents into the freezing cold, officers tore apart the family’s home, looking for non-existent contraband. Why was the contraband non-existent? The SWAT team basically flipped a coin over which door to kick in, and they chose the wrong one.

    During the interrogation of the family, they were asked if they knew “Marlo.” They did not. “Marlo” happened to live next door.

    Being that the SWAT team tore apart their home, terrorized this family, threatened the lives of their small children, all over being in the wrong house, they naturally paid for the damage and issued an apology, right? Wrong.

    According to the lawsuit, they did not apologize, and they told them to fix their own house. After the raid was over, the cops had the audacity to blame their ineptitude on the family by telling them it was their fault for not having the proper numbering on their door!


    Read more at http://thefreethoughtproject.com/sw...ildren-snow-blame-family/#M1L9wchm6gxlC7Yz.99
     
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    I'm sure that the bleeding heart, 2d Amendment-hating airheads will use the above cited incidents as clear reasons that all of our nation's local and state-wide police agencies need to be abolished and replaced with a fully-armed national police force under the direct command of the Attorney General of the US.
     
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    You know, it's bad that any of these cases happened. None of them are excusable, and there *should* be accountability.

    But it would be nice to reference these against the same police departments and units doing *good* work.

    Don't excuse the inexcusable one, or two, or three. But don't let the one, or two, or three overshadow the hundreds.
     
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    Ohio trooper advertised 'traffic stop sex' on Craigslist

    COLUMBUS (AP) —A state trooper accused of forcing female motorists into sexual acts in exchange for dropping traffic charges used Craigslist to offer "traffic stop sex," according to records released Monday that highlight the women's fear of reporting him.

    Trooper Bryan Lee also sent multiple Facebook messages to a female passenger he photographed without her shirt on, including one that let her know he'd been keeping an eye on her, a detail included in hundreds of pages of records the Ohio State Highway Patrol released in response to media requests.

    http://www.wlwt.com/news/ohio-trooper-advertised-traffic-stop-sex-on-craigslist/34776820
     
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    Inside the Mind of Police: Poll Hints At Cop Mentality/Culture

    I was recently shown a poll from PoliceOne.com that made me pretty delighted. When (so far) almost 1,900 officers were asked the following question:

    Continue . . . http://www.copblock.org/137272/inside-mind-police-poll/
     
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    The war on drugs could get a boost with a new method that analyzes sewage to track levels of illicit drug use in local communities in real time. The new study, a first-of-its-kind in the U.S., was published in the ACS journal Environmental Science & Technology and could help law enforcement identify new drug hot spots and monitor whether anti-drug measures are working.

    http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/06/140611112824.htm

    40 years into fighting a war against drugs CDC funded scientists found a new tool that the government can use to really get into our business.

    The war on drugs could get a boost after 40 years of government expansion, militarizing the police and putting thousands of people behind bars has failed to stop drugs coming into the country? I guess I'm supposed be excited about this new breakthrough, but somehow I'm just not feeling it.
     
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    “Homeland Defense” and the Militarization of America. Repeal of the Posse Comitatus Act

    GR Editor’s Note: This incisive article with foresight by author Frank Morales originally published by GR in 2003 describes a process which is now culminating in the militarization of law enforcement in the US and the repeal of the Posse Comitatus Act.

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    To further prepare for new “law enforcement” missions for the military within America, overseen by the Northern Command, the Center for Law and Military Operations, based in Charlottesville, Virginia, recently published the legal rationale for these developments.

    Entitled, Domestic Operational Law Handbook for Judge Advocates, the document reflects the growing momentum towards the repeal of the Posse Comitatus Act. Virtually unreported in any media, and published prior to 911, the document states that although “the Founding Fathers’ hesitancy to raise a standing army and their desire to render the military subordinate to civilian authority” is “rooted in the Constitution,”

    “exceptions to the restrictions on employment of federal armed forces to assist state and local civil authorities are also grounded in the Constitution, which provides the basis for federal legislation allowing military assistance for civil disturbances.”

    Continue . . . http://www.globalresearch.ca/homeland-defense-and-the-militarisation-of-america/5453940
     
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    Bail set at $1M for officer charged with attempted murder

    A Baltimore police officer has been charged with attempted murder in the shooting of an unarmed burglary suspect last December, State's Attorney Marilyn J. Mosby and interim Police Commissioner Kevin Davis announced Wednesday.

    The officer, 13-year veteran Wesley Cagle, is accused of shooting Michael Johansen, 46, in the 3000 block of E. Monument St. after he had been shot by two other officers. Cagle was charged with attempted first-degree murder, attempted second-degree murder, first-degree assault and second-degree assault.

    District Court Judge Halee F. Weinstein on Thursday cited the "heinous and callous nature" of the allegations in setting Cagle's bail at $1 million. Cagle's defense attorney Chaz Ball argued that Cagle is not a threat to the community or a risk to not appear in court, and instead asked for bail to be set at $150,000.

    Mosby said the first two officers were justified in shooting Johansen because he refused to heed commands and made a move toward his waistband.

    But Cagle "on his own initiative" came out of an alley, Mosby said, stood over Johansen, called him a "piece of [expletive]" and shot him in the groin.

    Continue . . . http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/maryland/crime/blog/bs-md-ci-officer-charged-shooting-20150819-story.html
     
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    VIDEO: COP SLAMS OLD MAN TO THE CONCRETE FOR SINGING IN PUBLIC

    A cop in Allentown Pennsylvania was caught on video brutally body slamming a 61-year-old man to the ground – his crime? Singing a Beach Boys song.

    Jim Ochse is known in the community for his quirky joyful singing, but when he decided to break into a rendition of the 1965 classic, Barbara Ann, private security guards and a police officer decided he was being a nuisance.

    http://www.infowars.com/video-cop-slams-old-man-to-the-concrete-for-singing-in-public/

    2 GEORGIA EX-COPS FACE MURDER CHARGES FOR TASING HANDCUFFED MAN AT LEAST 13 TIMES

    Two former Georgia police officers are facing murder charges for tasing an unarmed man at least 13 times while he was handcuffed. The man died following the confrontation.

    http://www.infowars.com/2-georgia-ex-cops-face-murder-charges-for-tasing-handcuffed-man-at-least-13-times/
     
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    EPIC RANT GOES VIRAL: “POLICE BRUTALITY? HOW ABOUT BLACK BRUTALITY?”

    Illinois woman in monumental smackdown of #BlackLivesMatter hypocrisy

    An African-American woman’s rant about the hypocrisy which plagues the ‘Black Lives Matter’ movement has gone viral.

    Peggy Hubbard, who lives just across the river from St. Louis in Belleville, Illinois, slams BLM for tearing up communities in response to a thug being shot dead by police while ignoring the issue of black on black violence that led to the death of a 9-year-old girl in Ferguson.

    Hubbard began by talking about the aftermath of the police shooting of 18-year-old Mansur Ball-Bey, who reportedly pointed a handgun at officers while he was fleeing a crack house in north St. Louis on Wednesday.

    Locals and ‘Black Lives Matter’ activists responded by torching buildings and cars. The unrest continued for a second night, with protesters chanting “we’re ready for war” as they blocked traffic, bashed out car lights, and reportedly jumped one young couple, with a man being severely beaten.

    “They went to execute a warrant for an arrest for a very very bad guy, when they came to get him, instead of going peacefully, having his day in court, he decides to pull out another stolen gun, shoot at the police, police shot back, and he was killed,” explains Hubbard.

    Continue . . . http://www.infowars.com/epic-rant-goes-viral-police-brutality-how-about-black-brutality/
     
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