A Birth Control Quiz

Originally posted by BobRyan:
What political party tends to favor anti-abortion positions in the US today?

What political party do American Catholics overwhelmingly vote FOR?

Instructive?

In Christ,

Bob

Are you trying to imply that the Republican party is anti-abortion? Think again. Start doing some research on some of the Republican candidates (to include some of the Bush family)..they are for choice. Choice is a vote for abortion.

I personally do not vote party. I vote candidate, I don't care who they are aligned with as long as they hold to pro-life (not pro-choice) stances.

You might wanna take the finger outta your eye...SDA doesn't have a very good track record about abortion....shall we talk about this:

The General Conference of SDA's president announced to the press, "that although we walk the fence we lean TOWARD abortions" because of the problems of world overpopulation.

This is an older quote...what does the SDA president say today?

and what about this:


"The doctor who is the king of abortion and owns more than 20 abortion mills on the west coast is named Edward Allred. He has personally bragged about doing tens of thousands of abortions and his many clinics into the millions. He is the unborn butcher who needs to be written up in history as the Hitler of the innocent unborn. I know about him because he used to be a
Seventh-day Adventist. He graduated from the SDA college in Riverside CA. He has given millions of dollars to his alma matter and even gives FREE abortions to many unwed pregnant students---especially med students at Loma Linda Medical
University." He was recently disfellowshipped from the SDA church................for
gambling!!!


LaRae

[Carson Weber]

Why is Bob diverting the direction of the thread? Pretty soon, we'll be debating Sunday worship.

Christians who condone artificial birth control are engaging in objectively grave sin irregardless of whether they themselves are culpable of sin due to their lack of knowledge. This is a situation that must be remedied.

Christians who condone artificial birth control are engaging in objectively grave sin irregardless of whether they themselves are culpable of sin due to their lack of knowledge. This is a situation that must be remedied.

Preventing pregnancy by abstaining from relations or by having a permanent procedure (vasectomy) is NOT sin. There is NO scripture to support your stance!
(I am NOT including birth control pills or IUD type contraceptives in that remark as those cause abortions.)

We've had the quiverfull discussion in the women's forum. A quiver is a 'small' pouch that holds only a few arrows and is not indicative of a family having 14 children when Dad can only afford to feed 3.

Diane

[Eladar]

Originally posted by Carson Weber:
All of these men have been wrong about other things as well.

As well as yourself, Pastor Larry. You don't escape the fallibility factor either.

Neither does any man or institution of man. This includes the RCC. [img]graemlins/thumbs.gif[/img]

[Carson Weber]

Neither does any man or institution of man. This includes the RCC.

Which returns us to the point I made to Priscilla Ann: fallibility is an irrelevant factor. Pointing out the fact of one's fallibility has no bearing upon the dialogue, for all members partake in this same disease.

[Eladar]

If contraception is a sin, then is it a sin for a fully funtional person to not get married and have children? The net result is the same. [img]graemlins/thumbs.gif[/img]

[Helen]

Methinks you need to read your Bible more. Specifically 1 Corinthians 7:25-38

and similar

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[trying2understand]

Carson, the problem here is that our non-catholic brothers adhere to a continually changing interpretation of the unchanging Word.

That others, even the predecessors of their own particular denomination, historically held a belief that contraception is sinful means little if anything.

It comes down to personally interpretting the Bible, while denying that personal desires, and personal convenience, and temptation towards sin have any influence on that interpretation.

I have heard the arguement concerning how many children can one afford used in support of abortion too.

This arguement of affording children is made by people living in the middle class of the wealthiest nation on earth.

Interestingly enough, when people had less wealth, say 100 years ago, affordablity of children wasn't a deciding factor in the right or wrong of contraception or abortion.

[thessalonian]

Originally posted by dianetavegia:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Christians who condone artificial birth control are engaging in objectively grave sin irregardless of whether they themselves are culpable of sin due to their lack of knowledge. This is a situation that must be remedied.

Preventing pregnancy by abstaining from relations or by having a permanent procedure (vasectomy) is NOT sin. There is NO scripture to support your stance!
(I am NOT including birth control pills or IUD type contraceptives in that remark as those cause abortions.)

We've had the quiverfull discussion in the women's forum. A quiver is a 'small' pouch that holds only a few arrows and is not indicative of a family having 14 children when Dad can only afford to feed 3.

Diane </font>[/QUOTE]You are quite wrong Diane. God tells Adam and Eve to "be fruitful and multiply. Fill the earth.....". Now Adam and Eve could fill the earth by themselves so we know this to be a command to all men and women. Of course this command was also mentioned to Noah and Abraham and a couple others and it is to YOU. Now if after the second child Eve said, Adam, I don't like this birth stuff and the second one killed his brother, could you get snipped. Do you suppose God would have said, no problem Adam. Psalm 127 tells us that all children are a blessing. "blessed the man whose quiver is full" and yet people today say only 2 are a blessing. We don't need any more of God's blessings. I have heard it said that children are our opportunity to live the beatitudes. I think this is very true.

Blessings

[thessalonian]

Originally posted by Helen:
Methinks you need to read your Bible more. Specifically 1 Corinthians 7:25-38

and similar

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Methinks Matt 19 is another good one to look over in this light.

Matthew 19:10
The disciples *said to Him, "If the relationship of the man with his wife is like this, it is better not to marry."
But He said to them, "Not all men can accept this statement, but only those to whom it has been given.

Celibacy for some is a gift from God and is for the greater glory of the kingdom.

Blessings