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12-02-2004, 11:56 AM
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I heard this discussion on the radio the other day. What do you think?
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12-02-2004, 12:14 PM
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Difficult one...I don't know. Menno Simons didn't think so.
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12-02-2004, 12:23 PM
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Originally posted by Plain Old Bill:
I heard this discussion on the radio the other day. What do you think?
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I think it's irrelevant to the Gospel and salvation. Interesting for discussion, to be sure, but let's not make doctrine out of it, which would result in taking the focus off the message of the Gospel.
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12-02-2004, 01:04 PM
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She was His physical mother, so I would say He would have had gotten the usual half of His genes from Her. It's the other half that is interesting to speculate about.
Maybe that's one reason why Jesus came before folks knew about that stuff.
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12-02-2004, 01:48 PM
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If Mary had the normal femal gene complement, Jesus could conceivably have gotten most of the genes from Mary and doubled them, but from where would he get the x gene to become male?
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12-02-2004, 01:50 PM
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If God created the x gene for Jesus by means of a miracle, and that seems to be the only choice, I wonder what patterns of inheritance would have been revealed by studying it?
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12-02-2004, 02:41 PM
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The Bible calls Mary the mother of Jesus and we know that she conceived Him (though not in the normal way). So Jesus had to have Mary's DNA or he would not be totally human. If Jesus did not have human DNA, he would not have been human.
The part about the HS causing the conception is the part we can't understand or dissect, imo. It just shows us that Jesus was fully man and fully God.
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12-02-2004, 03:21 PM
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I don't believe He did. She only carried Him and raised Him. God doesn't need natural means to make it happen.
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12-02-2004, 04:10 PM
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I don't believe He did. She only carried Him and raised Him. God doesn't need natural means to make it happen.
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So how was Jesus human? It is absolutely essential that Jesus have human DNA to be human.
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Both the one who makes men holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. So Jesus is not ashamed to call them brothers. He says,
"I will declare your name to my brothers;
in the presence of the congregation I will sing your praises." And again,
"I will put my trust in him." And again he says,
"Here am I, and the children God has given me."
Since the children have flesh and blood, he too shared in their humanity so that by his death he might destroy him who holds the power of death--that is, the devil-- and free those who all their lives were held in slavery by their fear of death. For surely it is not angels he helps, but Abraham's descendants. For this reason he had to be made like his brothers in every way, in order that he might become a merciful and faithful high priest in service to God, and that he might make atonement for the sins of the people. Heb 2.11-17
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12-02-2004, 04:13 PM
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You don't think God can create DNA without the help of Mary's? I'm asking. I haven't studied the issue at all.
How can Jesus be made up of Mary's DNA and not carry that sin nature?
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