The Lords Prayer

[Salty]

In our church we recite the Lords prayer:

[Dr. Bob]

Reciting the Lord's Prayer as a part of "liturgy" is a type of "formalism" in worship that most fundamental or conservative baptists would eschew.

Rote repetition is a hallmark of liberal Protestant churches and is a direct descendent of Catholicism's rituals. And we all know how the "pendulum swings" - if liberals do it, conservatives won't!!

[Jim1999]

You mean, "If it be possible, let this cup pass from Me..."

I never know which Lord's prayer is meant. I know many people recite the model prayer given in the gospels. A model of how we should pray.

Cheers,

Jim

[Gwyneth]

At the chapel that we attend we sing the Lords Prayer.
Gwyneth

[Kiffin]

Reciting the Lord's Prayer as a part of "liturgy" is a type of "formalism" in worship that most fundamental or conservative baptists would eschew.

Rote repetition is a hallmark of liberal Protestant churches and is a direct descendent of Catholicism's rituals. And we all know how the "pendulum swings" - if liberals do it, conservatives won't!!

I never knew that reciting scripture in Church was liberal

[j_barner2000]

I am pretty much matthew 6:7... reading the scripture is a good thing. Repeating it like a mantra is, I believe, the type of thing Christ was referring to as vain repetitions. It starts to lose message to our hearts.

[Kiffin]

I am pretty much matthew 6:7... reading the scripture is a good thing. Repeating it like a mantra is, I believe, the type of thing Christ was referring to as vain repetitions. It starts to lose message to our hearts.

I think all liturgical churches would agree with you. Vain repetition is wrong. I however hear people pray "spontaneous" or "extemporaneous
" prayer and quess what, many times it is the same prayer or repeating the same thing. The Bible condemns vain repetition but not repetition. In my personal devotions i generaly say the Lord's Prayer after I say extemporaneous prayer praying that my "spontaneous" or "extemporaneous
" prayer is in line with that model prayer of Mt. 6.

Such things as saying Liturgy is Roman Catholic is a myth. Actually English liturgy has it's roots in the Lutheran and English Reformation. It's a "Catholic thing" argument is wrong history since Catholic liturgy was Latin until Vatican II. The Church of England of the Reformation is where most liturgical worship has it's roots.

[Ulsterman]

Out of curiosity, how do amills deal with the line "Thy kingdom come," if the kingdom has already come?

[Jim1999]

Ulsterman, just as we have been saved, we are being saved and ultimately will be saved. So, the kingdom has come in the form of the church, so the kingdom is coming and will come in its fulness at the second advent.

Not detailed, but nutshell.

Cheers,

Jim

[Ulsterman]

Thanks, Jim.