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Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by poncho, Aug 24, 2012.

  1. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    Psychiatric Manual DSM-IV-TR Labels free Thinkers, non conformers as Mentally Ill

    It is now confirmed by USWGO News that the DSM-IV-TR Manual labels free thinkers, non conformers, civil disobedient advocates, those that question authority, and people considered hostile toward the government (aka Oath keepers and local militias) as mentally ill with the illness titled “oppositional defiant disorder” or ODD.

    It was reported on October 8 2010 from OffTheGrid News that anybody who is disobedient, defiant, a free thinker, or even considered hostile toward authority was to be labeled by psychiatrists as ‘Mentally Ill’.

    Now I have got my hands on a ebook version of the year 2000 version of the ‘Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders DSM-IV-TR Fourth Edition (Text Revision) By the American Psychiatric Association version DSM-TV-TR (The non TR Version was said to be older and so I got the newer one which had the information that Off The Grid News warned about).

    Now as I search up the keywords “oppositional defiant disorder” on adobe reader I found exactly what Off The Grid News was talking about. So it is now Confirmed basically that anyone who disobeys authority or even questions authority is now considered mentally ill and can be thrown in a prison-like mental institution under tax payers dollars.


    CONTINUE . . .

    Here's my Google Search for "Oppositional defiant disorder".
     
  2. Steadfast Fred

    Steadfast Fred Active Member

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    God's Word defines them as sinners, not mentally ill.

    I'll continue to trust God on this and reject the DSM
     
  3. targus

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    :laugh:
    ODD is referring to children. :rolleyes:

    Did you read any of your "research"?
     
  4. Steadfast Fred

    Steadfast Fred Active Member

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    From DSM-V:

    Note: Not all specifications are speaking of children. #4 in the Argumentive/Defiant section above is, but others are not necessarily speaking of children alone.
     
  5. HankD

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    Hmm, where does that leave us as a nation which has an authority defying founding document called "The Declaration of Independence"?

    We're a bunch of ODDBALLS.

    HankD
     
  6. Mexdeaf

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    Talk about seeking out a conspiracy where there is none!

    As a student of the Rehabilitation Counseling profession I am familiar with the DSM.

    Targus is correct- ODD applies only to children and adolescents. Untreated ODD may lead to Conduct Disorder and to Antisocial Personality Disorder (ASPD).

    Recommended treatment for ODD does NOT include "being thrown in a prison-like mental institution under tax payers dollars."

    Sheesh.:rolleyes:
     
  7. Tom Bryant

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    I think what Poncho is saying could have ramifications for the future that anyone opposing the prevailing common opinion can be labeled as dangerous.

    I am not sure that is what will happen, but much of what I dismissed as poncho's craziness/paranoia has become less never could happen and more "well, it could happen".
     
  8. Steadfast Fred

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    If a child diagnosed with ODD grows into adulthood and still displays the same behavior, he still has ODD. It does not make sense to say it is something else if it is the same behavior.

    If he displays the exact same behavior as an adult that he did as a child and is not diagnosed as having ODD as an adult, then he never had ODD as a child.

    By the way, the Bible identifies this thing the DSM calls ODD. The Bible calls it rebellion and says it is as the sin of witchcraft.
     
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  9. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    It's been happening for awhile now Tom.

    http://www.baptistboard.com/showthread.php?t=80844
     
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    I thought that we were all sinners, some redeemed and some not!
     
  11. poncho

    poncho Well-Known Member

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    We are all sinners it's just that we sinners who dare question the unlawful activities of government are now considered crazy and can be locked up on the criminal's whim.

    Just like in Nazi Germany communist China and the old USSR.
     
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    Ok - that was the conspiracy nut job leap. :laugh:
     
  13. Mexdeaf

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    So our Founding Fathers practiced witchcraft?
     
  14. Steadfast Fred

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    The Bible says rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft. If you choose to believe the DSM rather than the Bible, that is your choice.
     
  15. poncho

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    Yeah but they were all afflicted with "ODD" so it wasn't really their fault.
     
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