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Old 04-02-2013, 07:19 PM
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Default What Are the Marks of a True New Testament Church/

On another thread, we got sidetracked (actually, I think I did the side-tracking) in to discussing the identifying marks of a New Testament church.

So the questions are, what are the beliefs and practices of a true New Testament church? And what would be disqualifying beliefs and practices?

For instance, we Baptists would generally agree that salvation by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus would be an essential belief of a true NT church.

We would probably agree that baptismal regeneration would be a disqualifying doctrine.

Would the correct mode of baptism be essential?

Would the type of church government make a difference?

How about Open vs Closed Communion?

Release the hounds.
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Old 04-02-2013, 08:34 PM
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On another thread, we got sidetracked (actually, I think I did the side-tracking) in to discussing the identifying marks of a New Testament church.

So the questions are, what are the beliefs and practices of a true New Testament church? And what would be disqualifying beliefs and practices?

For instance, we Baptists would generally agree that salvation by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus would be an essential belief of a true NT church.

We would probably agree that baptismal regeneration would be a disqualifying doctrine.

Would the correct mode of baptism be essential?

Would the type of church government make a difference?

How about Open vs Closed Communion?

Release the hounds.
A New Testament Church? You mean like the church in Acts?
I have shared this before but this is what I look for in a church...
A place where Jesus is welcome to do HIS ministry in power.
A place where the Great Commissionis taken seriously.
A place where worship is real and powerful.
A place where spiritual gifts abound.
A place where spirtual battles are won.
A place where the hurting are sheltered.
A place where healing occurs.
A place where families are safe.
A place where the Bible is release in the lives of people.

A place where Jesus is not missed in peoples zeal for religion!
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Old 04-03-2013, 03:02 PM
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That's a good list, awaken. Thank you.

Please feel free to expand on your points. For instance, I''d like to hear more on what you mean by Jesus' doing His ministry in power. What would be an indication of that?

By spiritual gifts, for example?

You get the idea.
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Old 04-03-2013, 03:15 PM
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That's a good list, awaken. Thank you.

Please feel free to expand on your points. For instance, I''d like to hear more on what you mean by Jesus' doing His ministry in power. What would be an indication of that?

By spiritual gifts, for example?

You get the idea.
Where the church will not just talk about Jesus, but welcome him! When Jesus returned to heaven I believe that he promised to return again to us through the person of the Holy Spirit. Nothing can take the place of the HOly Spirits presence in the life of the church. Some churches do not even realize that Jesus has left their services.

I do believe in the manifestation of the HOly Spirit (that is no secret on this board),


"The worship is real and powerful"...
I believe a true worship service people will not just be spectators at a performance, but they will be participants who celebrate the presence of Jesus. They sing, clap, move in rhythm, shout, laugh, or weep before the Lord. They might quietly meditate and participate thoughtfully in the elemant of the service, not in mere repetition, but in deep awareness of the presence of the almighty God. Hearts are lifted in true worship and God is exalted!
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Old 04-03-2013, 05:54 PM
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Well said, brother.
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Old 04-04-2013, 04:07 PM
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Well said, brother.
depends on IF one wants to be biblical in regards to what constitutes it or not so...

believers baptism by Immersion
bible ONLY source for spiritual practices/doctrines
Hold to saved br Grace alone thru faith alone
believe in ordinaces of water baptism, communion NOT SACRAMENTS
Holding the the essential doctrines such as trinity, Second coming etc
NO ordained Women pastors/nor gay pastors
the holy spirit would be at work among the people saving sinners, in the preaching/reaching of the church
Would have healings and other things at times, but that would be God only doing it, NO gifts of healing/miracles/wonders as Apostless , and no tongues/prophesying etc!
Strong missionary/evangelistic outlook
Strong in prayers/relationships

well?
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:39 PM
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The Church should be a refuge. A place to get out of the world.
A place to worship and learn of God.
A place where truth is held in the highest regard.
A place to be united as Christ and His Father are in truth and spirit.
Where people are led to Christ, public professions are made, people are baptized and discipled.
Where we can participate in the Lord's Supper in remembrance of His sacrifice.
A place where people can serve in a real way rather than have made up ministries just to keep people busy.
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Old 04-06-2013, 09:59 PM
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A place where people can serve in a real way rather than have made up ministries just to keep people busy.
I like this!
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Old 04-07-2013, 03:32 PM
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depends on IF one wants to be biblical in regards to what constitutes it or not so...

believers baptism by Immersion
bible ONLY source for spiritual practices/doctrines
Hold to saved br Grace alone thru faith alone
believe in ordinaces of water baptism, communion NOT SACRAMENTS
Holding the the essential doctrines such as trinity, Second coming etc
NO ordained Women pastors/nor gay pastors
the holy spirit would be at work among the people saving sinners, in the preaching/reaching of the church
Would have healings and other things at times, but that would be God only doing it, NO gifts of healing/miracles/wonders as Apostless , and no tongues/prophesying etc!
Strong missionary/evangelistic outlook
Strong in prayers/relationships

well?
Well,
Well done.
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Old 04-07-2013, 04:42 PM
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Well,
Well done.
Yes, let's equate women with gays.
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