1 am Monday moring Senate vote?

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  1. Salty

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    I recieved this email

    has anyone else heard of this info?

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    This Weekend Could be Our Last Chance!


    Dear Friend of Liberty,

    It looks like after all the gamesmanship and back-door dealings that the Left has tried in order to sneak ObamaCare through, Harry Reid is finally ready to show his cards and bring the bill to the floor.

    FreedomWorks has learned that it is Reid's intention to bring up the decisive cloture vote for the Left’s proposed government takeover of America’s health care system at 1:00 AM Monday Morning. What’s the rush? Maybe the fact that Obama, Reid, and Pelosi have failed to broker a deal to pass their socialist reform bill, or that more and more public opinion polls are indicating that American’s do not want it. Whatever the reason, the Left is attempting one more full court press to pass ObamaCare and we must rally to stop them.

    TAKE ACTION!

    I know how hard you have worked all year to stop the hostile government takeover of health care. From the tea parties in the spring, to the historic 9-12 Taxpayer March on Washington, to the avalanche of phone calls, emails, letters, and face-to-face visits that have hit Congressional offices over the last few weeks, your voice has been a key part of this opposition and it is the reason the fight has lasted as long as it has. But we can’t back-off now as the fight reaches its climax.

    As I write this email, Reid has still not been able to make a deal that would get the necessary 60 votes and allow him to pass ObamaCare. However, our sources tell us that he may only be 1 or 2 votes away. This weekend the forces of the big government Left will be lighting up the phone boards of Congressional Offices as they remain in session and await the early morning vote on Monday. Use FreedomWorks Online War Room to counter their efforts over the next 48 hours.

    The War Room is equipped with timely information and cutting edge technology that will enable you to quickly contact the handful of Senators we believe could be the deciding votes on ObamaCare and urge them to VOTE NO.

    Imagine if you wake up on Monday morning and ObamaCare has passed. Wouldn’t you like another chance to place one last urgent call, send one last email, or show up to your Senators’ district offices one last time to demonstrate your support for keeping America’s health care system free?

    I hope I can count on you.

    Sincerely,

    [​IMG]
    Dick Armey
    Chairman, FreedomWorks
     
  2. Revmitchell

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    Thanks for this post
     
  3. Magnetic Poles

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    I got this one:

    [FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]Dear MoveOn member, [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]The latest Senate health care bill has no public option. No expansion of Medicare. And it does too little to guarantee that uninsured Americans will actually be able to afford the coverage they'll be required to purchase.1[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]Former insurance executive Wendell Potter put it best: the bill is "a big bailout to the [health insurance] industry."2[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]But it's not too late to fix the bill. And as Joe Lieberman has shown, just one senator willing to stand in the way can force legislation to be changed dramatically.[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]Senator Bernie Sanders[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif], a strong proponent of the public option, has already made clear that he's opposed to the legislation in its current form—and he could decide to block it until it's fixed.3[/FONT]
    [FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]But there's enormous pressure from all sides to pass a bill quickly, no matter how weak it is. Let's show Bernie and other progressives that we're counting on them to block this version of the bill—and we'll get their backs if they do. [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]Can you sign our petition opposing the current Senate health care bill? Clicking here will add your name:[/FONT]
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    [FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]MoveOn members overwhelmingly support the House bill. But it's clear from member feedback and surveys that the majority of MoveOn members oppose the Senate bill as it now stands.4[/FONT]
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    [FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]1. "ANALYSIS: House Bill More Affordable Than Senate Legislation," Think Progress, October 30, 2009
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    [FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]"Side-by-Side Comparison of Major Health Care Reform Proposals," Kaiser Family Foundation, November 23, 2009
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    [FONT=Arial, Verdana, sans-serif]5. "Poll: Loss of Public Option Causes Big Increase in Opposition to Health Care Bill," Talking Points Memo, December 16, 2009
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  4. targus

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    It is pretty well agreed on all sides then.

    This bill isn't any good for anyone and no one wants it.

    That means they will pass it for sure.:rolleyes:
     
  5. KenH

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    With Ben Nelson coming on board it looks like the Senate will pass a bill. But it still has to go to conference and then whatever comes out of conference has to be passed by the House and the Senate.

    It ain't over 'til it's over!
     
  6. Salty

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    Lock up the fat lady:praying:
     
  7. Paul3144

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    There's a good chance that Sens. Sanders or Burris will oppose the bill. I, for one, can not support the bill as it stands. What they should do is kill the bill, then go into budget reconciliation. The only issue is that they can only do things that affect the budget. However, they can expand Medicare and have an optional buy-in for everyone. That would definitely affect the budget. The one big problem is Medicare, without regulating private insurance, would become a dumping ground for people rejected by the death panels at the private insurance companies. However, they probably could still pass insurance regulation as a regular bill. Or perhaps they could pass it through reconciliation because it does affect the budget because of the aforementioned issue with Medicare.

    BTW, Magnetic Poles, what are your thoughts on a single payer system? I'm personally not a supporter of it, but I was wondering what your thoughts are.
     
  8. KenH

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    Passing something this big using the reconciliation process has never been done before. Attempting to do so would likely bring the Senate to a grinding halt until the Democrats backed down.

    Now, if the Republicans would bring the Senate to a grinding halt and keep it there and the Democrats would not back down, I would go along with using reconciliation. The U.S. Senate being shut down for the next year would be a good thing for this nation since at least 90% of what our members of Congress pass is bad for this nation.
     
  9. Magnetic Poles

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    Well Paul, I think the bill as it stands is a gift to the insurance companies. I am absolutely for universal coverage for every American man, woman, and child, and a right of every American. I think single payer is one way to do that, but would be open to other ways to accomplish that goal.
     

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