1. Welcome to Baptist Board, a friendly forum to discuss the Baptist Faith in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to all the features that our community has to offer.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon and God Bless!

1 John 5:7-8

Discussion in 'Bible Versions & Translations' started by DesiderioDomini, Dec 4, 2005.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. nate

    nate New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2005
    Messages:
    811
    Likes Received:
    0
    Come on, nate. You can't ignore proven historic fact and expect to be taken seriously. The various editions of the TR (roughly 30 of them) are representitive of the Byzantine textform just as the various editions of NA (27 of them) are representitive of the Alexandrian textform. </font>[/QUOTE]I believe the Robinson/Peirpont Byzantine New Testament is a much better representative of the Byzantine text type. I just have a very low regard for the TR Erasmus rushed to get it complete and in Revelation it has many poor translation choices.
     
  2. nate

    nate New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2005
    Messages:
    811
    Likes Received:
    0
    I would agree with this.
     
  3. Eliyahu

    Eliyahu Active Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2005
    Messages:
    4,957
    Likes Received:
    16
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Better than Vatican text and the (kindling) garbage of Sinaiticus, though.
     
  4. nate

    nate New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 14, 2005
    Messages:
    811
    Likes Received:
    0
    How many times does this myth have to be corrected it was found in a closet wrapped in a red silk cloth. I've been told the cloth is still there with it. It's not garbage.
     
  5. Eliyahu

    Eliyahu Active Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2005
    Messages:
    4,957
    Likes Received:
    16
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Monks at the manastery intended to use it as kindling material for fire.
    It was not intended to be used for any texts, but it was a work of writing exercise by the monks.
     
  6. NaasPreacher (C4K)

    NaasPreacher (C4K) Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2003
    Messages:
    26,806
    Likes Received:
    80
    Okay folks - lets return this thread to the topic of 1 John 5v7-8 and stop stating personal opinions about particular manuscripts.

    We have already passed the five page limit so closure may result if we continue in this vein.
     
  7. Eliyahu

    Eliyahu Active Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2005
    Messages:
    4,957
    Likes Received:
    16
    Faith:
    Baptist
    This is what I already mentioned. In this thread everyone should focus on Johannine Comma ( JOhn 5:7-8). Now it is not wise if anyone tries to discuss on Amos 4:4 here, and then in the thread for Amos 4:4, the same person tries to discuss on 1John 5:7-8.
     
  8. Eliyahu

    Eliyahu Active Member
    Site Supporter

    Joined:
    Nov 4, 2005
    Messages:
    4,957
    Likes Received:
    16
    Faith:
    Baptist
    Regarding Torah and Tanak, when Jesus was asked about the resurrection, He had to find the proof only in Torah, because Saducees disbelieve the rest of Tanak other than Torah as a genuine part of Words of God. Saducees didn't approve Daniel ch 12 or Isaiah or Job as the genuine part of God's Word. Therefore whenever there was a debate between Pharisees and Saducees, it bacame the debate about the authenticity of the Prophets. Therefore Pharisees could never convince Saducees about the resurrection.
    When Jesus came to the world, He knew the truth about the resurrection is stated in Torah also, even though Pharisees didn't know about it.
    Pharisees were very much amazed because it was a question bothering them so much in the past.
    If Jesus presented other part of Bible (Tanak) to convince Saducees, they would have rejected it, because Saducees disbelieve the other part of Tanak than Torah.

    What Jesus pointed out is the tense, I believe.
    Jesus mentioned that The present Tense was used for God of Abraham, God of Issac, God of Jacob. If they all died and didn't exist then current time, then the past tense should have been used.
    Pointing out that amazed the people.
    Of course, it is related to the fact that Abraham, Issac, Jacob are the people having Eternal Life, Living Men.
    Pre-existence of Jesus is what I have been emphasizing all the time and that's why I fought against Mother of God concept in the other thread, vigorously.

    Hope now everyone can return to the original subject.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
Loading...