10 Reasons Why Calvinites Are Calvinites

even Satan hates the Sovereign Grace of God...

 

Boy, a Baptist who rejects his Heritage. And I don't think I understand "Calvinites Are Calvinites". Any way the 10 points are not worthy of responding to.

 

Brother Larry can speak his mind on this, however, having received an alert to check this post for inflammatory statements, I find nothing inflammatory in it.

I flatly disagree with the opening post. I would like to say that point number ten would admonish and reject such great Baptist preachers as C.H. Spurgeon, John Gill, Owen, Christmas Evans and many many more.

This is inmho a valid list of discussion points.

May God Bless all who would engage with a spirit of Humility, patience, love and a prayerful attitude throughout that brethren who would disagree might find their ability to do so by Grace far out weighs their capabilities to attack by the flesh.

Bro. Dallas Eaton
(Frogman-Co-moderator)

 

It may be a valid list of discussion points, but it's highly irreverant to refer to God as 'Gawwwd'

 

I agree with above posters. This OP is actually too ignorant and beliggerant to be responded to. God bless.

Daniel Allen
www.spurgeon.us

 

I have taken a hiatus from posting in this section (I do still peruse it every now and then), but I was the one who took offense at part of your OP; namely, your sixth point (which I still think violates part of the board's rules, but I must admit that I don't know so I digress). My alert was not due to arrogance or an effort to shut you up but to hold you to higher standards in your posts.

I can't speak for others on this board but I have never questioned another's love for Jesus over a theological issue such as this. I have no intentions to shut you up, but please debate in a loving manner and refrain from senseless ad hominem like "you don't love Jesus, because if you really did then you wouldn't be a Calvinist" (admitted paraphrase of number 6) or "you don't have the true gospel" (another paraphrase of number 10).

These kinds of statements sicken me because they advance nothing and show how someone has misplaced polemic ahead of love and grace. If you don't like Calvinism, then fine, but don't say Calvinists don't love Jesus and don't have the true gospel (i.e., they are not saved). BTW are you intending to use the term "Calvinite" in lieu of Christian implying that Calvinists are not even Christians?

You're right about one thing in your last post, I know that people from BOTH sides have wrongfully fought dirty on this board, but that's no excuse to join them in poor behavior. My advice for you Mark is to hold yourself to a higher standard than your OP shows and convince people of your position with salient points instead of baseless personal attacks-it's possible

BJ

PS: No, this isn't some touchy-feely, why can't we all get along post. At least I hope it doesn't sound like one.

 

I can certainly argue that Calvinism is wrong but would not argue that Calvinists can not love Jesus and still teach error.

Error that is susinctily illustrated as follows --

To reference the Basic Calvinist future Scenario “posted” with details “ignored” by Calvinists ON a thread about God not loving the lost –

http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/35/1543/2.html#000015


To see the “perfect” Calvinist confirmation “in a nutshell” –

Error that can lead to agnosticism in at least one case - as you can see in this set of posts trying to undo the agnosticism it appears to have produced.

http://www.baptistboard.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php/topic/28/3442/5.html#000061

In Christ,

Bob

 

Whew! Amen Mark. Truth is spoken. Calvinism is pure, unadulterated tripe.

Hey jc the baptist, Satan does hate the true doctrines fo grace and sovereignty, but he loves Calvinism---its his baby, pride and joy.

 

If accusing fellow posters (as well as the great men of our Baptist heritage) of not loving Jesus because they hold to historical Baptist doctrines is not inflammatory, I'd hate to see something posted that you did consider inflammatory!

 

I agree with it and as far as C.H. Spurgeon and all those great Calvinist preachers of the past they're just dead men. Why should we respect them, when God doesn't? What is so great about men who were and are still so wrong. I'll bet they know the truth now.
In The Light Of Christ;
Mike

 

Dear Brother Mark,
And all brethren,

I believe in the Doctrines of Free Grace. I am not calvinist because Calvin is wrong regarding the church.

What is written above by Brother Mark is no less nor more inflammatory than what has always been on this forum since I have been here. As I said in my earlier post, if Brother Larry wishes to over rule me I will not mind.

At the same time I agree enough with Calvinism that I could easily take offense at Brother Mark's post and also another one, however, I chose to hold myself to a higher standard and not simply attempt to get around the op by saying it is inflammatory.

Fortunately the Sovereign Grace of God is not dependent upon what men believe or agree upon to believe.

This is the reason I thank God for my salvation and the reason I praise Him alone for the salvation of as many as He chose in Christ and that Christ Redeemed and as many who with or without the obedience of sinful men, will be brought to Christ by the Spirit of Power and Holiness alone.

May God Bless,
Bro. Dallas Eaton

 

TCassidy,

I have to agree with you. Good job.

I have seen Mark before in other places on the internet and while I do not find he should be banned.......

I thank God for His Spirit in us!

His will be done on earth as it is in heaven.

KJB

 

Neither is Arminianism nor Calvinism by themselves in agreement with scripture.

 

1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.


1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe [he is] precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,


1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, [even to them] which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.

 

Brother James,

Point well taken.

KJB

 

Brother James,

I Peter 2:8.

In Dr. A.T. Robertson's "Word Pictures of the N.T." on I Peter on page 98 says,

'Whereunto also they were appointed' (eis ho kai etethesan), is in the first aorist passive indicative of 'tithemi. See this idiom in I Timothy 2:7. "Their disobedience is not ordained, the penalty of their disobedience is" {written by Dr. Bigg}. They rebelled against God and paid the penalty.' (end quote).

You guys need to study in depth in stead of shout ing what you do not understand or comprehend.

Don't you have access to the writings of the Greek scholars near Radford, Virginia.

Just keep on believing that Calvinistic montra and you will never grow in Christ and clear away the cob webs of error from your minds.

Berrian, Th.D.