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105 issues with Obama

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by Salty, Dec 4, 2013.

  1. Salty

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    Out of the 105, 102. Everything but ...

    Libya: It was necessary.
    Drone strikes: Taken against enemy combatants -- and if they happen to be U.S. citizens, that's their problem.
    Bowing to visiting world leaders: A sign of respect, not a sign of servility.
     
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    Has any President of America ever bowed to foreign leaders before?
     
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    found this page from Foreign Policy
     
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    It's as I said, not servility. Custom. Thanks, Salty. :thumbsup:

    Yes, particularly the ones from Asia where it is a custom similar to the handshake.
     
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    All of them except:

    --turning off the security check on credit card transactions for campaign contributions

    --intervening in Libya without Congressional consent

    --his disowning of Jeremiah Wright. People can change their minds. I know I've changed my mind on preachers.

    --previous work as a lawyer suing banks. When the article says "Before he entered politics..." means it's not fair game.

    --appointment of czars. Just because we don't like it doesn't mean he's doing anything wrong.

    --alienating and isolating Israel (I oppose the US doing this, I just question whether or not Obama has truly done it.)

    --I disagree with the statement that Obama's economic policies were SOLELY the reason for the credit rating downgrade

    --Disagree with this statement "Pretends to be concerned about skyrocketing energy prices, when in fact he vowed to increase them on purpose". It's mind reading, and besides Obama didn't vow anything here, one of his aides speculated that higher gas prices would help push the US into alternative energies.

    --While I disagree with many (all?) of his cabinet appointments, I don't think it rises to the level of misdeeds, scandals, crimes. (Blunders are subjective.)

    --Wonder about this statement: "Vowed to end the influence of lobbyists in Washington, but under Obama’s watch their influence has only increased." How do we know that lobbyists influence has increased? Ah, you say, because they are spending more money on lobbying. Yes, but if they were spending more money on lobbying, doesn't that mean that they are NOT getting what they want and have to spend more?

    --disagree with the characterization that Obama "bowed" to Arab leaders out of deference, and not simply decorum.

    --50/50 agree/disagree with this one: "Repeatedly snubbed and got into public tiffs with Benjamin Netanyahu, who as the leader of Israel is supposed to be Obama’s closest colleague in international affairs." (Part I agree with is underlined; part I disagree with is not underlined.)

    --" Encouraged politically biased hiring practices in the Justice Department." Name one President that does not do this. It's his prerogative.

    --Drug use in college was a crime and a blunder but not something that belongs on this list since he was not an elected official.

    --Excessive golf playing. Unfortunate, but again, just because we don't agree with it doesn't make it wrong.

    --"The pastor whom Obama selected to give the national benediction..." I doubt he had anything to do with it.

    --Smiling while a Chinese pianist plays a denigrating song on a piano (while singing in Chinese). I doubt Obama had an interpreter relaying the translation of the lyrics into headphones.

    --"It was revealed only after Obama became president that during the 1990s he was a leading member of the “New Party,” a socialist-aligned far-left radical group in Chicago." doesn't pass muster since he was not an elected official at the time.

    I'd say there were several other items that were trivial and were put on the list to pad them out.

    Hey! They forgot these:

    He doesn't wear a flag pin in his label every day.

    He had the American flag on his campaign plane reduced in size.

    He puts his feet up on the White House desk.

    He gave the prime minister of England a set of DVD's in NTSC format whereas they use PAL format for videos in England.

    He didn't fly the American flag at the Port Au Prince airport after starting American relief efforts following the earthquake in Haiti.

    Michelle Obama had a $447.80 dinner at the Waldorf Astoria.

    Michelle Obama has over 30 personal assistants at the White House.

    While military leaders salute at Arlington Nat'l cemetery, Obama has hands clasped at waist.

    Obama said his uncle helped liberate Auschwitz.

    Obama’s White House asked Georgetown University to remove Christian symbol at First Lady press conference.

    Obama always uses a teleprompter, even when addressing kindergarten children.

    Obama didn't visit Ft. Hood after the terrible shootings.

    Michelle Obama served soup to a "poor" person who owned an iPhone.

    Two Muslims hold important positions at the Dept. of Homeland Security.

    Muslims held a prayer service at the U.S. Capitol--Obama didn't stop it from happening.

    Obama does not personally sign Eagle Certificates for the Boy Scouts of America.

    Obama didn’t speak at Arlington National Cemetery on Memorial Day, instead he went to Abraham Lincoln National Cemetery outside Chicago.

    Obama didn’t have American flags behind him at a press conference.

    Obama read a book written by a Muslim titled “The Post American World.”

    Obama denied a request for a military flyover at an Idaho “God and Country” rally.

    Obama wasn’t wearing his wedding ring or his watch during Ramadan. This proves he’s a Muslim.
     
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