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Discussion in '2004 Archive' started by Precepts, Feb 29, 2004.
At least Mel ought to be getting rich!
I hope so!
Somehow, I think the theater and Icon, not to mention other people and groups will get a large portion of that.
Mel's largest grossing movie (Signs) made 228 million dollars. Never heard a baptist preacher advocating going to the theater to see it.
With all the hoopla of preachers and churches who would NEVER go to a movie in decades, I think Passion will outgross Signs in 2-3 weeks.
Yeah, by the time everybody else takes their cut, he only gets a small percentage of that.
He'll recoup the 35 mil he put up for it and then some. Good for him. He did a great job and he deserves to be rewarded for it.
I'm hoping that Hollywood will sit up and take notice of his success.
I do too, Mike!
Too bad Baptist preachers didn't advocate for people to see "The Patriot" when it came out. Another excellent Mel Gibson movie that should be mandatory viewing for all school students and liberal churchgoers!
YEAH BABY YEAH!!!
Methinks he needs to hire someone to help him spend it! HI MEL!
I can't wait for the next cult member to do a biblically inaccurate, sloppy fantasy/heresy movie on a spiritual theme, with lots of violence and gore...
...I can't wait to hear so-called evangelical Christians squeal in glee for it and praise it to the skies.
Will it be a Mormon? Jehovah's Witness? Heaven's Gate? Branch Davidian? Vineyardian? PBIer? Who?
Yes, Mel belongs to a fringe church, and assistant on film is associated with a cult, Opus Dei. But hurray for Mel and we hope the cult and fringe church that is anti-Vatican II get rich from this film, and that Mel can retire off profits made from the Churchianity crowd. Boy!
Hey, vaspers, are you checking your blood pressure on a regular basis? The way you are so exercised over this film, I am concerned about your health.
Thank you KenH, it is called "zeal for the glory and holiness of God."
See, Jesus is the Healer, as well as the Saviour and Teacher, so I'm doing just fine.
I pray He continues to preserve and sanctify and heal you also, brother Ken. Jesus is pure love.
Glad you're doing okay, vaspers. Personally, I have no opinion pro or con on this film and don't plan on seeing it unless my wife talks me into it after the crowds die down. I really don't want to have to sit through the blood and gore. After all, I have read The Book.
Also, the best presentation of the crucifixion of Christ that I have ever seen is toward the end of the movie, "Ben Hur". The face of the actor playing Jesus is never shown. But the whole scene is full of emotion if you watch the film from the beginning. I have watched other movies and plays about Jesus but none have touched me emotionally the way that "Ben Hur" did.
May God bless you everyone, pro and con, about this film.
Actually I do agree with Vaspers. This movie is more of a movie "cult" attraction than a Gospel attraction. I do believe it will grip the hearts of many as it has already done. the press comments are what will diminsh the Gospel effect of the film if they are taken as knowing anything about movies. I wonder what Siskel and Ebert have said?
Besides, God let the "movie" be played on the screen of my heart once, I got saved. I don't look back to Calvary for His Crucifixion. Everytime I look at Calvary, I see an empty Cross, but I also see two other crosses, one that was once me, the other is me on the right side of His Cross. I'm looking towards Heaven for His soon Coming in the clouds, listening for the sound of the Trumpet!
You know it's funny, I haven't heard one word about the movie from anyone in our church. I'm not even sure anyone from our church would even come to BB either. I guess I'm the "lone ranger" in this area, and soon to depart.
8 Again the Devil takes Him to a very high mountain, and shows to Him all the kingdoms of the world and their glory.
9 And he said to Him. I will give all these things to You if falling down, You will worship me.
10 Then Jesus said to him, Go, Satan! For it has been written: "You shall worship the Lord your God, and you shall serve Him only." Deut. 6:13
" And he said to Him. I will give all these things to You if falling down, You will worship me."
Or Mary or saints or etc, because any worship that is not directed to God or Jesus, goes to the enemy by default. If you worship a coke bottle, he gets it. SInce Mel has made his money back, will he show the movie now for free out of his concern for the "lost"?
I could care less about most Hellywood movies.
I have attacked, yes attacked, this film because I really believe it is disrespectful, irreverent, and close to blasphemous to our Savior.
It adds extra-biblical violence and gore, for the sake of violence lovers who crave and get high on this garbage.
Jesus dangling from a chain over a cliff. More lashings than is biblically or historically accurate. Etc, etc.
This film is a test for God's people: to see if we care more for biblical accuracy...or more for any stupid movie that will leave us stunned and dripping tears into our popcorn.
Mel's already materially rich. He didn't need to make this movie. He wanted to. He made a personal $25 million investment and now it's returning dividends.
Folks, be careful with this movie and use great discretion with your children.
Roger Ebert's commentary on this film:
Actually, Mel invested a LOT more than originally stated. $15 million alone was spent on advertising. He's certainly given more than a mere widow's mite toward sharing the message of what Jesus did for him.
I am sorry to report, that all of the Baptist who threw down their hard earned cash to see Mel's movie are not saved...according to Mel:
 On being asked by Peter Boyer, interviewing him for a New Yorker article, whether being a Protestant disqualified him [Boyer] from salvation, Gibson responded simply: "there is no salvation outside the Church." He then went on to talk about his non-Catholic wife. "My wife is a saint. She's a much better person than I am. She's Episcopalian, Church of England. She prays, she believes in God, she knows Jesus, she believes in that stuff. And it's just not fair if she doesn't make it, she's better than I am. But that [outside the Church there is no salvation] is a pronouncement from the Chair. I go with it."7 Things could not be more clearly articulated - both Gibson's going with the Chair and his innate discomfort with the Chair's teaching, maybe even with God, if his wife is not saved.
9 Traditionalist Catholics believe only Catholics go to heaven (without every considering where that leaves Jesus the Jew); the contemporary Catholic Church believes, on the basis of what it considers the revelation of God, that God saves whom God saves. It is here that the core of the opposition to Gibson's film is founded.
Some of you need to lighten up. Is this why more people are not attracted to the gospel--because we are such caustic sourpusses? When will we ever learn? If we live our lives like we post on this board it's no wonder people are not interested in hearing from us about our Lord!