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1984 Arrives in America

Discussion in 'Political Debate & Discussion' started by KenH, Dec 7, 2010.

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  1. Salty

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    Bill, just a couple quick notes about your stats. A "drunk driving collision" is one in which one driver is DWI. For example, suppose Adam is DWI -Charlie is sober - at an intersection Adam - is leagally and safely going thru - but Charlie runs the red light - and crashes into Adam. Charlie is killed - Adam survives - that collision is considered a DWI collision - even though Adam was not at fault.

    This comes under the heading of lets fudge the stats so we can prove our point.

    Second, some 50 years ago, 50% all deaths were due to DWI - today - that national average is down around 40 % - in fact all motor vehicle deaths are down, in spite of the fact that there are twice as many drivers in the US. Keeping those stats in mind above - DWI deaths have drastically been reduced.

    Mind you - even one DWI death is a tragedy. In my classes I teach - I try to personalize driving.

    But all in all, I do see you point.
     
    #21 Salty, Dec 8, 2010
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    Here's what I urge you to do: Don't look at this particular topic (the "see something, say something" screens at Wal-mart).

    Look at *all* the things that have happened.

    The screens at Wal-mart? No big deal.

    The screens at Wal-mart, plus the feds able to put tracers on your vehicle without a warrant, plus TSA pat-downs, plus....

    See what I mean?
     
    #22 Don, Dec 8, 2010
  3. billwald

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    >Bill, just a couple quick notes about your stats. A "drunk driving collision" is one in which one driver is DWI. For example, suppose Adam is DWI -Charlie is sober - at an intersection Adam - is leagally and safely going thru - but Charlie runs the red light - and crashes into Adam. Charlie is killed - Adam survives - that collision is considered a DWI collision - even though Adam was not at fault.

    Yes, same as smoking death statistics and I suppose a way used to bad mouth anything we don't like.
     
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    #24 Salty, Dec 8, 2010
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    Hi Salty,

    This general decline in motor vehicle deaths over the last 50 years probably has to do with the fact of safety requirements and innovation of the auto manufacturers:

    e.g. Seat belts, air bags, safety glass, ABS, safety enhanced car body and frame design, etc...

    All good IMO. To make it better add: Sober, alert, law-abiding, defensive drivers.

    HankD
     
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    Me.

    But I profile. :thumbs:
     
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    I've always wondered if the devices nearly everyone now carries on them can become such a device.:eek:
    They've already been used to track people, though usually regarding some crime.
     
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  9. Salty

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    Very true - in addition, classes such as the one I teach DDC are also helpful. One the highest fatality rates are teens 16-17 years. Now many states or commonwealths are passing laws, such as no more than two passengers, and ect.
     
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    Keep up the good work Salty.

    HankD
     
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    Yes, they can. In fact, I believe it's AT&T who has a "service" that you can pay a little extra each month and track your children via their cell phone. You access the web page, and it shows a map with a dot that indicates where your child is at.
     
    #31 Don, Dec 10, 2010
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    You can get phones equipped with GPS's---you become a "blip" on the government's radar screen!!!!!
     
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