2 Cor. 5:11 and 1Cor. 5:5

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  1. eagleswings0408

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    What are your feelings on these verses??

    "But now I have written unto you not to keep company, with any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat."

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    "To deliver such a man unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus."
     
  2. Michael

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    Uh, that's a pretty deep verse...I think that all guilty of at least one of those things... commentators often disagree on the interpretation of this verse in fact some"feel it describes the act of excommunication from the local church. Others feel that the power to deliver to Satan was a special power granted to apostles but no longer in existence today." Isn't Satan that's wants us to be debating things and being devisive among ourselves? In reality...the thing that destroys churches are the people that Satan manipulates to debate.
    This is probably not scripture, but my very Godly grandmother use to say, "keep your own back door steps clean..." hee hee rather funny but meaningful sentence.
    Michael
     
  3. eagleswings0408

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    I'm rather confused. :confused: The scripture I am talking about has nothing to do with debating or devisiveness. I just asked what do you think it means.

    Really my question is, "How do you feel about it?" Because in Psalms 119:89, it says, "For ever, O Lord, Thy word is settled in Heaven." This means that the Bible can only be interpreted one way. It never changes. It only has one meaning and that is God's meaning. I do believe that scripture is open for discussion, but to be discussed with "kindness, humbleness of mind, and meekness."

    Question:
    Where did you find that commentary on Satan? I have never heard that before and I would like to read it.
     
  4. Michael

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    The commentary that our pastor strongly recommended..."believers commentary.. By william Mcdonald..
    Michael
     
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    Alright, i'll try to read it! So what do you believe? The excommunication or the thing about Satan?! :rolleyes:
     
  6. Michael

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    I think we need to let our pastor guide us in these areas... [​IMG]
     
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    Thank you. I know; he just left our house a little while ago. We are in agreement with our pastor. Because your opinion is important to me, I was curious how you felt on the matter regarding the scripture. I think it is important as friends to discuss God's word and maybe even agree to disagree. Well, I need to sign off now to read that commentary. Thank you for letting me know about the commentary. Night! [​IMG]
     
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    good night... I'll talk to you sunday...
     
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    Does anyone else have anything to say about this matter? :confused: [​IMG]
     
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    i dont know that is tough but never heard of apostles handing people over to satan.
     
  11. krmom

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    :confused: Well if you recall Job was basically handed over to Satan. God gave Satan permission to do what he wanted to Job except kill him in order to prove Job's faith. I realize this situation is different because the church is giving over the un-repentive brother to Satan. It's is believed it means to cut the brother off and let Satan has his way with the brother. Always remember though that Satan can't touch the brother without God's Okay. It seems in this situation that Paul is saying God is giving his okay. Again this is only addressed in this situation but according to the Word of God it was an issue in the church and was to be dealt with. I have heard people quote different commentaries stating that this type of severe discipline no longer applies. I say if God doesn't say it will go away than it doesn't. The Word of God on occasion has said things will cease such as tongues and prophesy, however I can't find anywhere in the Word that this will not apply throughout the church age. It kind of reminds me of a statement put out by the Episcopal Church when describing homosexuality. They stated "God is doing new things in the church". What they are saying is God changes with the times. :confused: I don't think so.
     

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