Webdog, we are trying to ascertain from you "why we are chosen", if you don't believe in unconditional election nor "foreseen faith". You insist on saying that our salvation answers "why we are chosen". It doesn't. I just went over this with Allan in the "who did Jesus die for part 2" thread. They are not reasons for our "chosenness". They are the means by which God accomplishes His choosing or His election. Reasons are not means. God chose you to be saved(that's His election) through the sanctifying work of the Spirit and through belief in the truth(those are His means). The reasons(or "why") for our salvation is rooted in His choice(His election).