2016 Republican Nomination

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  1. The American Dream

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    One has to admit, this is the brightest chance conservatives have had in many years to nominate a conservative. There are only two so far of the tired old, establishment RINOs as of today considering a run, Bush and Christy. On the conservative side Paul, Cruz, and Rubio have announced. Scott Walker, governor of Wisconsin, Ben Carson, and Perry have yet to announce. I say there is very good chance one of the conservatives will be nominated and a better than even chance they can beat Hillary in the electoral college. If a Bush or Christy type gets the nomination, Hillary will win.
     
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    Christy hasn't a chance. Believe Bush may back out since Rubio got in. My choice for president would be Kasich, Walker & Rubio in that order. Rubio is most charismatic and may get the nomination. I like Cruz but believe he has alienated too many people.

    For VP I like Rubio if not presidential nominee, Carly Simon, or Ben Carson. I would like to see the Presidential candidate throw the VP nomination to the Convention. Create some excitement! We haven't had an exciting convention since 1964 when the Rockefeller {Me Too} Republicans {That is RINO's for you youngsters.} walked out on Barry Goldwater.
     
  3. The American Dream

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    Ah yes, Nelson baby. That guy ran more than Harold Stassen. He was finally Fords VP, but it took a President and VP resigning to put him in. My top choice for President is probably Scott Walker and Rand Paul VP.
     
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    I don't think that anyone ran more than Stassen.

    Just finished listening to a blog radio broadcast by Silvio Canto, a Cuban dissident commentator, who was talking about the Organization of American States letting a dictator like Raul into the OAS. He noted that Cuban-Americans are very proud that they have two candidates in this race--Rubio and Cruz. They are also proud of what Menendez has done to stand up for this nation against communism in Latin America and Islamic terror in Iran, which is getting Russian missiles from Putin to protect their atomic bombs.

    http://cantotalk.blogspot.com/2015/04/castro-bashes-us-but-absolves-obama.html
     
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    Si, es la verdad. However, it will be interesting to see how many Cubans consider Cruz a true Cubano. Also, the Cuban community is a big fan of Jeb. It will be interesting to see how all of this shakes out.
     
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    1) Paul is not a conservative. He is a Libertarian (though not as much as Ron) -
    2) If too many conservatives enter the race - their vote will be split and a moderate/liberal may win all the delegates of a "winner-take-all" State/Commonwealth.
     
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    Ben Carson and I wish J.C. Watt would run, he'd be an awesome President as well as being a born again Christian.
     
  8. The American Dream

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    At least there is chance. Better a libertarian than another Bush or Christy. If either of those two are nominated, Clinton will win hands down.
     
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    1.) Those who call themselves conservatives aren't conservative.
    2.) If to many enter the race. So what? We'll get another global corporatist (globalist) posing as a conservative or liberal residing in the WH.

    Then we can go on arguing over how "different" the globalist democrats and globalist republicans are while they steal us blind and rob our children of their lives and limbs.

    YaY!
     
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    Meet Ted Cruz’s billionaire

    In the last presidential election, the first with super PAC proliferation, the mega-donors sometimes received nearly as much attention as the candidates they were bankrolling. Names like Sheldon Adelson, Foster Friess, Harold Simmons, the Koch brothers, and others quickly became prominent figures in national politics, thanks to their overwhelmingly generous investments in GOP candidates.

    The Oprah joke was apt: you get a billionaire benefactor; and you get a billionaire benefactor; everybody gets a billionaire benefactor!

    Four years later, the dynamic is similar, though as the New York Times noted over the weekend, some of the names have changed.

    The two men share a passion for unbridled markets, concerns about the Internal Revenue Service and a skeptical view of climate change. Now the two – Senator Ted Cruz, Republican of Texas, and Robert Mercer, a Wall Street hedge-fund magnate – share another bond that could link them through November 2016: Both want to see Mr. Cruz elected president.

    Mr. Mercer, a reclusive Long Islander who started at I.B.M. and made his fortune using computer patterns to outsmart the stock market, emerged this week as a key early bankroller of Mr. Cruz’s surprisingly fast campaign start. He is believed to be the main donor behind a network of four “super PACs” supporting Mr. Cruz that reported raising $31 million just a few weeks into his campaign.

    Trevor Potter, a campaign finance lawyer who served as a Republican member of the Federal Election Commission, told the Times that just one low-profile donor can make an enormous difference in transforming a presidential candidate in a competitive, top-tier challenger.

    “It just takes a random billionaire to change a race and maybe change the country,” Potter said.

    Take a moment to pause, read that sentence again, and consider its weight. The idea of one random person having the power to possibly change the world is enshrined in the American ethic, but this isn’t quite what the myth is all about. Potter isn’t describing a “ripple of hope” narrative, so much as he’s describing a “one guy can buy the White House for his friend” kind of story.

    As for Mercer, the Times story is worth checking out, though it’s worth highlighting the fact that some Democrats are already aware of recent activities.

    Rep. Peter DeFazio, Democrat of Oregon, remembers with some bitterness Mr. Mercer’s opposition to his re-election campaign in 2014 when he spent about $650,000 on attack ads and other efforts in support of a conservative challenger.

    “I don’t think the guy had ever even been to Oregon,” Mr. DeFazio said. He said he believed Mr. Mercer targeted him in part because of legislation Mr. DeFazio sponsored that threatened higher taxes for hedge funds like Mr. Mercer’s fund, Renaissance Technologies.

    “He’s a patron for ultra-right-wing causes,” Mr. DeFazio said, “and in a Republican presidential race, being an ultra-right-wing millionaire from Wall Street isn’t going to hurt you.”


    http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/meet-ted-cruzs-billionaire
     
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    So the billionaire's company suddenly has a 6 billion dollar tax problem, and now he has thrown a whole bunch of money toward a candidate who didn't stand a chance of becoming the GOP nominee because the big money donors were going elsewhere.

    And oh yeah, it just so happens Cruz wants to abolish the IRS.

    Conservative principles at its best.
     
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    :laugh::laugh::laugh:

    Yup. Like they were going to end Obamacare.
     
  13. The American Dream

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    And stand for traditional marriage
    And stop abortion
    And protect our borders
    And balance the budget
    And run up no national debt
    And reform Social Security
    And reform Medicare
    And follow the Constitution
    And work a full year for their pay like others do
     
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    Not that I disagree, but how? Just wondering.

    Marriage is a state issue. Not much a president can do.
    Abortion is a state issue. Again, not much a president can do.
    How would you propose to protect the borders? What about the illegal immigrants already here? Would you send them home or create a pathway to citizenship?
    How would you balance the budget? What would you cut? Would you increase military spending?
    How would you reform Social Security? Change the age? Means testing? Lower the amount paid to seniors?
    How would you reform Medicare? Change the age? Require HMO coverage? Reimburse physicians/hospitals even less? Require greater copays?
     
  15. Salty

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    It is a federal issue when it comes to filing tax returns and allowing H-sexwals to live in military family housing.

    Until Roe-vs Wade is overturned - it is a federal issue.

    absolutely no benefits - welfare, education, ect, ect, ect. - EXECPT medical care to save life or limb -

    - NO citizenship - need to be returned to home country.

    1) institute the Automatic Electronic Tax - that would decrease the IRS by about 98.6%.
    2) Delete or cut many of the federal agy's
    3) End excessive double dipping
    4) more to come....
    Yes - however, I would propose more unification. For example, Legal, medical, chaplains, ect would be consolidated under one branch - or even come directly under DOD - No need for each service to have separate depts.

    Will have to think on these some more
     
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