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  1. j_barner2000

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    I gave my first Dec 20 and now tues pastor said Sunday was my day to give next one.
    I plan to discuss the results of justification from Romans 5:1-11. preparing the sermon is no problem.

    Now the problem... I am not a well trained public speaker. My first sermon was my first experience with speaking in front of crowds. Any suggestions to a 37 year old boy who God called from obscurity to the pulpet. I am so nervous that my palms are sweaty and my knees are weak. I have been in prayer and I know He has given me the message to present.
    Pray for me, that He will comfort my rapidly beating heart and knocking knees.
     
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    for anyone who prayed for me, thanks. I believe it went well. Only hitch is transitioning cleanly into the invitation. I need to work on that. I believe I felt the spirit move (at least in me).
     
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    Just PREACH! [​IMG] PREACH! [​IMG] PREACH! [​IMG] , and don't ever mount the pulpit unless you are reverent of the fact you are speaking as the oracles of God. [​IMG]

    It's a good sign to have the sweaty palms and the "beating" heart. [​IMG] I'm so glad God is still calling "young" men to preach! [​IMG] Do ask the Lord to give you that holy boldness, though. Let go and let God! Plea the Blood of Jesus all over your text and sermon, remembering that the Lord sends His Word out with power, to accomplish that which He set it out to do, and it will not return unto Him void. Above all, never fail to "run" by way of Calvary, even if you are preaching on tithing! [​IMG]


    In Christ!

    Brother Ricky
     
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    If God has called you into His ministry, things will get better. Having no previous experience in public speaking, nervousness is expected. It's going to take a little time to reach a comfort zone....even if this is God's calling. If the nervousness doesn't seem to get better, try to think of what you attribute it to.
    Maybe worrying about how others will receive the message God has given you? Whether people come to Christ after the sermon? And feeling that if no one does, you didn't do a good job?
    If this is your calling, He's the one who will move and convict those who are lost. Smooth transition or not.
    I wouldn't worry so much about a smooth transition into an invitation call. Can you think of a single person
    in Scripture that made a smooth transition into an invitation? Think about this one for a bit.
    The answer may help with your nerves.

    It's gonna get better, Sport.
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    Shalom!
     
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    Thanks for your prayers. At 37, 36 when I surrendered to the call last August, I do not consider myself a "young" man. But He knows best.
    I think the biggest piece of nerves is the fact that out of 45 or so regular attenders... most have been Christians longer than I have been alive and 2 are retired pastors and 1 is a travelling preacher. Then there is the pastor and senior pastor (who has 55 years in ministry).
    As soon as I started presenting the scripture passage and prayed over it, I was calmed and He gave me the boldness to proclaim the message He wanted me to present. Funny thing, Both times I preached, the message went off into a direction and emphasis I'd considered but really did not plan. That is why I say I felt Him move, at least in me. I will say I did better the second time. And as I work in His will I will become a better preacher. I just pray that I never forget it is of Him and for His Glory. I have seen many good men get proud and take big falls for it. Thanks for the advice and prayer.
     
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    J. Barner,
    I am 76 years of age, and been in ministry all my life. Before I preach my stomach turns and twists, my knees are wobbly and sometimes I would rather be somewhere else. I think all preachers have an experience similar before they present God's word. It is something you put aside over time and just get on with the chore before you. I shouldn't worry about it. In fact, I would be more concerned if you did not experience some fear and trembling.

    I have known some great preachers who literally got ill at the stomach before they preached. So much so that they couldn't eat.

    Read good literature and don't be afraid to read it aloud in private. Know your sermon. If the crowd troubles you, look just over their heads at first. The resident ministers will understand your position, and trust me, the people are not looking for you to slip up. Above all, remember that you have been called to be the preacher for that event and God will uphold you as you stay true to Him.

    God bless you, and give you a long ministry.

    Cheers,

    Jim
     
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    Thanks Bro Jim. The pastor and I discussed the sermon and the reason for a sermon on Wednessday. I am really thankfull for experienced pastors being willing to advise and mentor newly called/surrendered men. Seminary is great and I am learning from the classes, but the opportunity to train under 2 experienced pastors is great. I am able to get in the trenches and serve God's people and learn about ministry while under experienced men. It has given me an invaluable opportunity to learn the true meaning of "servant leader". I have been shown and experienced why God calls us to be shepherds.

    I encourage any of the experienced pastors here to find and mentor a less experienced or newly called man. I believe this is the best way to train and teach pastors. I know I have read a lot on pastoral ministry, but since August 2002, I have learned more than books have ever told me.
     
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    From http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/8te/8te030.html

    (Billy) Graham recalled revival meetings he held. "I had prepared four different sermons to preach if I was ever called to preach," Graham said about his beginnings in Tampa Bay. "[That first time] I preached all four of them in about the first eight to ten minutes, I was so nervous. I still get nervous before I preach."

    Pete [​IMG]
     
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    Funny about the Billy Graham quotation. My first sermon was 9 points, taken right out of Graham's book Peace with God. And it didn't take 20 minutes.

    Probably 750 people there for the evening service and I was 16 or so. :eek:
     
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    Try to bunk the old monologue, remnant from Catholicism, pastor up-high in the pulpit sermon sometime for a more participatory, down by their feet approach (literally and figuratively).

    While being well-prepared, just have a good conversation with others, while also allowing them to throughout question and--horror of horrors--challenge you and share publicly with all as they feel God has shown them. A wandering microphone and mic-man is useful.

    Alternatively, give a 10 or so minute framing sermon, then open the floor. Follow it with 10 or so minutes to close the "sermon."

    Or some combination of the two.

    Yes, even with several hundred people or more.

    Save the monologue sermons for when you have very certain God-inspired messages that are the special words-for-the moment from God for your flock; say, once every other month or so. Note very well that you will only best know these if the preceding approach is taken.

    By taking this approach, you will be utterly amazed at how people begin to quickly feel like more than passive sheep...and actually begin to very broadly act like it over time, develop their varying gifts like never before, and deeply "buy into" the church's vision, because they themselves have participatorily helped create it all along.

    2Ti 4:2 Preach the message; be urgent in season and out of season; reprove, rebuke, and exhort, with all patience and teaching.

    This passage is not at all subverted by the approach I am talking about. It is us who read that as "preach the message in a monolithic sermon most every time the flock gathers week-by-week." That goes beyond the text, and reads into it.

    Try this approach. A world that awaits to be shaken by the Message of Christ by the Body of Christ is what is at stake. You can help facilitate the shaking by this sort of facilitative leadership.

    I speak with you--with you, not to you--oh, how that is such a key--from not only Scripture, but experience. Painful, hard and well-learned, and ultimately successful experience.

    Try it.

    [ April 21, 2003, 05:51 AM: Message edited by: Anthro ]
     
  11. j_barner2000

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    Now that is interesting. Sounds like the way our tuesday night Bible study goes. I will look into that approach more for next sermon. Couple of questions. Do you ask pointed questions in this approach? Do you give folks advanced warning? Is this an opportunity to give testamony?
     
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    Most, most definitely on the advanced warning.

    As to pointed questions, I say save them for the monologue sermons.

    The idea is to ask the sorts of questions that more draw people out instead of draw them tightly in. Testimony could certainly be a part.
     
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    cool thanks.. I don't recall seeing this approach, but it is intriguing..
     

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