3 days and 3 nights

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  1. wopik

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    Most people know that the day following Jesus' death was a Sabbath day. What most don't seem to know is that the Jewish holidays, except one, are also called Sabbaths, no matter what day of the week they fall on (Lev. 23:32, 39).


    If one of these holidays were to fall on a Thursday, the day before would be a preparation day.


    http://www.abcog.org/ntsab.htm


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    Right. So Good friday day, Jesus died. Day 1.

    Friday evening was the beginning of Day 2, which was part of the sabbath, Saturday, which extended to saturday at sundown.

    Day three began that Saturday night and ended Sunday day when Christ Arose.

    ...in other chronological news, I have heard speculation that there were two different Jewish calandars being used durring the time....anyone know more about that?
     
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    Luke 24 - resurrection Sunday (afternoon in this case) was the "Third day since" the crucifixion. That leaves us with a Friday afternoon Crucifixion using that same rule.

     
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    The people who buried Jesus had to rush to get Jesus buried before the Sabbath day came. They buried Him right near to the place of the crucifixion, because they had no time to go anywhere else. They had no time to carry the body some other place.


    The women, who stood near by, watched the burial.


    Luke says these women went home and prepared spices and ointments and rested the Sabbath day "according to the commandment" (Lk 23:56).


    How could these women have watched the burial and then have time to go home and prepare spices - before the Sabbath day came? There isn't any way.
     
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    Not entirely correct:


    "the third day since these things were done" ----


    "...and besides all this, today (Sunday) is the third day since these things were done" (Lk. 24:21). "These things were done" included the sealing of the sepulchre and setting a watch at the tomb -- ordered by Pilate, a day after the crucifixion (Matt. 27: 62-66).

    Sunday was the third day from Thursday, making a late Wednesday crucifixion possible.

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    I believe Jesus was Crucified on Thursday ( crucified in the morning and died in the afternoon) at the time Passover Lambs are killed.
    You get the answer from Matt 28:1 as Sabbatwn mentioned 2 times.
     
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    Read Luke 24 carefully to see what "things THEY were speaking of" in the chapter. They said it was the plans of the priests and the crucifixion.

    Nothing is mentioned in the "Events" specified by these two disciples about sealing the tomb and then saying "it is the third day since the tomb was sealed".

    If you find them speaking of it in Luke 24 - please show the quote.

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    Matt
    27:62
    "The next day, the one after Preparation Day, the chief priests and the Pharisees went to Pilate."


    27:64
    So give the order for the tomb to be made secure until the third day.


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    Adam Clarke explains this well...

    Three days and three nights - Our Lord rose from the grave on the day but one after his crucifixion: so that, in the computation in this verse, the part of the day on which he was crucified, and the part of that on which he rose again, are severally estimated as an entire day; and this, no doubt, exactly corresponded to the time in which Jonah was in the belly of the fish. Our Lord says, As Jonah was, so shall the Son of man be, etc. Evening and morning, or night and day, is the Hebrew phrase for a natural day, which the Greeks termed νυχθημερον, nuchthemeron. The very same quantity of time which is here termed three days and three nights, and which, in reality, was only one whole day, a part of two others, and two whole nights, is termed three days and three nights, in the book of Esther: Go; neither eat nor drink Three Days, Night or Day, and so I will go in unto the king: Est_4:16. Afterwards it follows, Est_5:1. On the Third Day, Esther stood in the inner court of the king’s house. Many examples might be produced, from both the sacred and profane writers, in vindication of the propriety of the expression in the text. For farther satisfaction, the reader, if he please, may consult Whitby and Wakefield, and take the following from Lightfoot.

    “I. The Jewish writers extend that memorable station of the unmoving sun, at Joshua’s prayer, to six and thirty hours; for so Kimchi upon that place: ‘According to more exact interpretation, the sun and moon stood still for six and thirty hours: for when the fight was on the eve of the Sabbath, Joshua feared lest the Israelites might break the Sabbath; therefore he spread abroad his hands, that the sun might stand still on the sixth day, according to the measure of the day of the Sabbath, and the moon according to the measure of the night of the Sabbath, and of the going out of the Sabbath, which amounts to six and thirty hours.’

    “II. If you number the hours that pass from our Savior’s giving up the ghost upon the cross to his resurrection, you shall find almost the same number of hours; and yet that space is called by him three days and three nights, whereas two nights only came between, and one complete day. Nevertheless, while he speaks these words, he is not without the consent both of the Jewish schools and their computation. Weigh well that which is disputed in the tract Scabbath, concerning the separation of a woman for three days; where many things are discussed by the Gemarists, concerning the computation of this space of three days. Among other things these words occur: R. Ismael saith, Sometimes it contains four אונות onoth, sometimes five, sometimes six. But how much is the space of an אונה onah? R. Jochanan saith, Either a day or a night. And so also the Jerusalem Talmud: ‘R. Akiba fixed a Day for an onah, and a Night for an onah.’ But the tradition is, that R. Eliazar ben Azariah said, A day and a night make an onah: and a Part of an onah is as the Whole. And a little after, R. Ismael computed a part of the onah for the whole.” Thus, then, three days and three nights, according to this Jewish method of reckoning, included any part of the first day; the whole of the following night; the next day and its night; and any part of the succeeding or third day.
     
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    this may give some insight a little:

    it's a .pdf file...2 pages long. with scripture backing.
    3 days & 3 nights
     
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    There were more than one group of women, addressed by the different Gospel accounts
    See:
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    mmhmm...

    that's saying that mary magdalene went first... alone. and when she saw the sight of the stone rolled, and angel, and earthquake deal. she ran to peter and the others and told them what happened...

    its saying there were three different groups of women. that makes no sense.

    because after the first group. then would not that first group be so excited and therefore go and tell everybody that had been close to Jesus?

    or were they not that excited, and forgot to tell people... and for everytime one group went to the tomb, they got the same response happen to them... to tell peter.

    peter was told three times?
    mary mag. was the first group. and she was in the second group... and so on...

    im actually laughing right now.
    what balogne. you people make things too complicated.
     
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    Read Luke 24 carefully to see what "things THEY were speaking of" in the chapter. They said it was the plans of the priests and the crucifixion. Nothing after that.

    Nothing is mentioned in the "Events" specified by these two disciples about sealing the tomb and then saying "it is the third day since the tomb was sealed".

    If you find them speaking of it in Luke 24 - please show the quote.

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    Why does it matter???????
     
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    1) "the women PREPARED spices and ointments and RESTED THE SABBATH DAY, 'according to the Commandment' " - Lk 23:56 (Saturday Sabbath).


    2) but they didn't even BUY THE SPICES until AFTER THE SABBATH - Mk 16:1 (Nisan 15 annual SABBATH).


    the women bought the spices AFTER the Nisan 15 annual Sabbath, and prepared them BEFORE the weekly Sat. Sabbath (Lk 23:56).


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    Nisan 14 - Jesus died (late Wed. afternoon)

    Nisan 15 - Pesach annual "high day" Sabbath

    Nisan 16 - Women buy and prepare burial spices – Mk 16:1

    Nisan 17 - Women rest on weekly Sat. Sabbath – Lk 23:56 - (resurrection late afternoon-3days & 3nights later)


    Nisan 18 - Mary Magdalene goes to the tomb, "when it was yet dark" (Jn 20:1) and finds it empty.


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    quote:
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    "...and besides all this, today (Sunday) is the third day since these things were done" (Lk. 24:21). "These things were done" included the sealing of the sepulchre and setting a watch at the tomb -- ordered by Pilate, a day after the crucifixion (Matt. 27: 62-66).

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    Well Luke 24 makes it clear that Sunday afternoon is the "third day" since the crucifixion. When you see what they say and quote what they say - they end with the crucifixion and then state that Sunday afternoon is the Third day - since that event took place.

    This gives us insight as to the systdm of inclusive reckoning they were using calling Sunday afternoon AFTER the resurrection the THIRD day since the crucifixion event that they explicitly state in Luke 24.

    And then - it all fits!

    In Christ,

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    NO, BobRyan. They do NOT say, "it's the third day since the crucifixion". That's what YOU say.


    They say, "it's the third day since THESE THINGS WERE DONE. Please get the quote right.


    "...and besides all this, today (Sunday) is the third day since these things were done" (Lk. 24:21). "These things were done" included the sealing of the sepulchre and setting a watch at the tomb -- ordered by Pilate, a day after the crucifixion (Matt. 27: 62-66).

    Sunday was the third day from Thursday, making a late Wednesday crucifixion possible.
     
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    Yes, I know some people think it is a Greek idiom, but you don’t have to be a scholar to check that out. If you know how to use a concordance, you can take a Bible and easily walk through the usage of these terms. “Three days” may be ambiguous, but when you toss in the expression “and three nights” you add an emphasis to the expression that really requires that third night.


    http://www.rondart.com/Book%20Holidays/7%20Three%20Days%20an%20three%20nights.htm


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    I'm not entirely convinced any of this matters at all. He died, He rose, and lives forevermore.

    So... what's the big deal about Thursday or Friday?
     

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