60,000? or 40,000?

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  1. carpro

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    Just how many troops did McCrystal ask for?

    Everything I read(courtesy of the corrupt old media) mentions only the 40,000. So 30,000 troops isn't so bad. That's close. Obama tried, didn't he?

    Somehow the emedia and dem0ocrats are failing to mention the real numbers.

    McCrystal requested 60,000 troops and 40,000 as a rock bottom minimum.

    The weak kneed C-i-C gave him less than the minimum and expects him to win with it, and guess who'll get the blame if it doesn't go so well?

    What a guy! What a magnificent leader! :rolleyes:

    I wonder if the media will ever tell the real story?
     
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    With all the lessons we have had in our history, several in our life time, it seems we never learn. If a war is worth fighting, if a cause is so great as to spill American blood, then the war is worth winning, quickly, decisively, with a quick exit. If we are just going to have half measures towards victory, not allowed to use this or that weapon, excluded from certain areas or actions, weak or inept leadership, anything that stands between us and winning, then don't bother at all. Stay home. Our troops, both men and women for all services, deserve every tool we have to support them doing their job. They deserve the deepest gratitute of every American for protecting the freedom and liberty of this nation. If we cannot deliver this for our warriors, then not one drop of American blood should be shed. It is too precious a price to pay for bleeding heart liberals and inept leaders.
     
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    if your going to send troops, why not send enough to win, instead of not nearly enough knowing your probably going to lose becasue you short changed them. he sent enough to look good, but knowing not enough to win with.
     
  4. just-want-peace

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    I've gotten cynical enough about this (?) administration (?) to seriously wonder if this was not the 0's aim!

    Wouldn't be surprised in the least.:BangHead:
     
  5. carpro

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    Ever since 911, democrats, especially liberals like Obama, have been heavily invested in defeat.

    It's no surprise that Obama would fight to lose.
     
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    What's the rationale of waiting for weeks to announce what you're going to do, then deciding to go with less troops than what General McChrystal recommends? This is what you waited weeks to announce? Obama has no military experience, yet he thinks it's a good idea to not go with what your guy on the ground recommends? What am I missing?
     
  7. KenH

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    Zero is the number of additional troops that should be sent. I hope that the Congress refuses to fund this ill-advised escalation of the war in Afghanistan.
     
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    You just might be right. We will need them in the US when
    Al-qaeda and the Taliban infiltrate our borders.

    Sgt Salty
     
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  9. carpro

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    Not a chance.
     
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    I've gotta say either send what you top General asks for, or send everyone home, this is just endangering more American lives. I wonder how many of the soon-to-be second lieutenants last night were proud of their CIC?

    Did anyone else notice he kept calling the Taliban----"Tollybon"
     
  11. KenH

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    Anyone votes to fund this globalist escalation of the war in Afghanistan being advocated by "Lyndon Baines" Obama, Hillary Clinton, and the rest of the neo-libs and neo-cons should be defeated if they seek re-election - be they Democrats, Republicans, or independents.
     
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    That's the correct way to pronounce it. Keep in mind that there are 5000 NATO troops going in. I think that Obama's plan will work, but I tend to lean towards withdrawal because of the fact that we are , in effect, in the middle of an Afghan civil war and Karzi is corrupt.
     
  13. carpro

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    Not according to the dictionary, but I forgive Presidents of minor pronunciation errors.

    Don't you?
     
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    So, now we have to big to fail wars to go along with our to big to fail banks. Wonderful.

    A two thousand year history of empires trying to conquer Afghanistan.

    "Just one more surge!" -- The Indus
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Kushan
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Scythians
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Parthians
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Saffarid
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Ghaznavid
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Ghorid
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Timurid
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Hotaki
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Durrani
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Aryan
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Persians
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Sassanids
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Hephthalites
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Huns
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Mughals
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Arabs
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Turkic
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Hazaras
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Khwarezmids
    "Just one more surge!" -- The Mongols
    "Just one more surge!" -- The British
    "Just one more surge!" -- The British (again)
    "Just one more surge!" -- The British (Yet again)
    "Just one more surge!" -- The USSR
    "Just one more surge!" -- The United States

    SOURCE

    "Just one more surge!" Or is it just one more bailout?

    Question, how many "Al Qaeda" fighters are in Afghanistan? Answer, about one hundred.

    With New Surge, One Thousand U.S. Soldiers and $300 Million for Every One Al Qaeda Fighter. All that money and manpower spent on a hundred cave dwellers. I mean it's not like we're already broke or anything.
     
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    >Did anyone else notice he kept calling the Taliban----"Tollybon"

    It frosts me when goons like Michael Savage criticize people for their family names and accents. (He is ashamed of his Jewish Name?) When I was a kid in New Jersey we had a new student in the school from Alabama. he almost needed an ESL class. A person from Maine needed a translator to talk to someone from Alabama. Now days everyone is expected to talk like TV script readers.

    Anyone (no one in particular) who (might) pronounce JHWH as Jehovah - which is not even a word and is pronounced "The Lord" by Jewish people - has no room to criticize anyone's pronunciation.
     
  16. poncho

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    Ron Paul: Obama Is Preparing for Perpetual War

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    The Congressman also asked Gates and Clinton “Do you endorse the Bush doctrine of “preventive war”, or do you reject it”, prompting the following response from Clinton:

    “We were attacked from Afghanistan, so even if the doctrine is or is not an appropriate one, it is not applicable to the situation before us.”

    “We were never attacked by an Afghani.” Paul rebutted

    Watch the Congressman’s comments and questions

    Clinton seems to have conveniently forgotten that the plan to attack Afghanistan was drawn up before 9/11, so her point about the U.S. being attacked first is completely irrelevant.

    Even if you believe the official story of 9/11, the plot was carried out by Saudi nationals and planned in Europe, it cannot be used as a valid reason for attacking Afghanistan

    WAR IS A RACKET! Ron Paul

    Prisonplanet.com

    C'mon you didn't really expect me to source any of the Pentagon/Defense contractor tv networks did ya? What would be the point in that?

    You've all heard what the "message force multipliers" have always said. . .

    MORE MORE MORE! "Just one more surge!"

    Not like we haven't heard all that before.
     
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  17. KenH

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    Ron Paul is correct once again. What a different country we would have in regards to liberty if we had Ron Paul in the White House and a Congress run by people of the same libertarian, pro-America philosophy.
     
  18. poncho

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    For one thing we might once again be treated like citizens instead of consumers.

    Consumer = cash cow of the global financial elite. Just in case you hadn't figured that out already. ;)
     

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