9 Facts That Show White-on-White Crime Far Exceeds Black-on-Black Crime n How Media Outlets Conceal

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    9 Facts That Show White-on-White Crime Far Exceeds Black-on-Black Crime and How Media Outlets Conceal It

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    Edward Wycoff Williams, an author, columnist and political analyst for MSNBC, conveyed a reality that many do not seem to know is real. Williams wrote for The Root: “It seems that the media in general and white American society in particular prefer to focus on crime perpetrated by African Americans because it serves as a way to absolve them from the violence, prejudice and institutionalized discrimination engendered for generations against blacks. It offers a buffer against responsibility, a way to shift blame and deflect cause and effect. But the truth, and numbers, tell a different story. At the heart of an increasingly violent society is not a subculture among Blacks, but the violence and criminality of many Americans, and whites in particular. No one seems to speak about this. Why? Because the snake oil was duly purchased and consumed. It is time for race-based pseudo-facts to be challenged and dismantled.”

    The Raw Numbers

    Statistics are cut-and-dry, and they do not lie. According to the FBI’s most recent homicide numbers available, from 2011, a staggering 83 percent of white murder victims were killed by fellow Caucasians. (Of murders committed by Blacks, only 14 percent were of whites.) And because whites are the majority in the country — there are six times as many whites as there are Blacks — that means they commit the most murders. This could be viewed as startling to many, especially whites, because hardly ever is “white-on-white” crime dissected in the media. As an example, Time magazine’s Joe Klein wrote an entire column recently on crime, focusing on the Black community and calling it a “social disaster.” But there was no mention that whites overwhelmingly are killed by whites, which was typical of media outlets.

    Media Misrepresentation

    Williams wrote: “The term ‘black-on-black’ crime is a destructive, racialized colloquialism that perpetuates an idea that blacks are somehow more prone to violence. This is untrue and fully verifiable by FBI, DOJ and census data. Yet the fallacy is so fixed that even African Americans have come to believe it.” Indeed, respected columnists like George Will never examine crime by whites, do not use the racialized phrase “white-on-white” crime and give the impression their lives are at risk because of Blacks. The truth, taking FBI data from 2010: Whites killed whites 3,252 times, which was 4.6 times more than the number of whites killed by Blacks.
     
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    Violent Crimes

    Whites are responsible for the vast majority of violent crimes, according to the FBI. With respect to aggravated assault, whites led Blacks 2-1 in arrests; in forcible-rape cases, whites led all racial and ethnic groups by more than 2-1. And in larceny theft, whites led Blacks, again, more than 2-1. Williams asks: “Given this mathematical truth, would anyone encourage African-Americans to begin shooting suspicious white males in their neighborhoods for fear that they’ll be raped, assaulted or murdered?”

    Range of Crimes

    The Bureau of Justice Statistics found that compared to Blacks, whites were more likely to kill children, the elderly, family members and their significant others. They commit more sex-related crimes, gang-related crimes and are more likely to kill at their places of employment.


    [​IMG]The ‘Monster’ Effect

    Amazingly, according to the FBI stats, women committed 36 percent of the murders committed by white people against white people. This number is far higher than you see with Black women. Aileen Wuornos, who was found guilty of killing six men and was later executed in a Florida prison, is widely regarded as the country’s first female serial killer and was the subject of the 2003 film Monster. Wuornos’ murderous run was glorified in the film, and Charlize Theron won an Oscar for Best Actress for the role. List verse names 10 female serial killers — and all are white.

    Historically, Politically Ignored

    President Barack Obama and none of the white previous presidents have ever spoken a word about the phenomenon of white-on-white crime. Vox, under the headline, “White-on-White Crime is Out of Control,” says, “Indeed, looking back on America’s political iconography, there are disturbing trends toward the glorification of white violence. Peer inside the US Capitol building, and you’ll find a monument to Confederate Jefferson Davis — the leader of an insurgency that caused an unprecedented quantity of violent white deaths.” Around the country are white mass murderers of Blacks in particular who are memorialized.
     
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    It would appear that if folks were REALLY concerned over crime, the focus would be on the people who are committing far more of it. Crime isn't the real issue.Sneaky
     
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    Numbers themselves may not lie, but they can be presented in ways that distort the truth. This particular passage of the article reeks of distortion. Let's look at the numbers themselves. (FBI Crime Stats 2014)

    # of white people murdered: 3,021
    # of white people, total population: 247,000,000
    # of white people murdered by white people: 2,488
    Percentage white on white murder: 83%
    0.001% of the white population murdered by other white people


    # of black people murderd: 2,451
    # of black people, total population: 42,000,000
    # of black people murdered by black people: 2,205
    Percentage black on black murder: 90%
    0.00525% of the black population murdered by other black people

    As you can see, based on population size, black people murdered other black people 5 times more.
     
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    As the old saw goes, "Figures don't lie, but liars do figure!";)
     
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    Umm, Zaac didn't say that. I didn't write the article.

    And as you can see, the part of the article you quoted was referencing pure numbered amounts. It didn't say anything about based on population size. So there wasn't any truth distortion. Based on the numbers,what they stated is true. Whites commit more murders than Blacks.

    Nope. Your math is wrong for what you're talking about. It can get you an answer. But it's not the statistical way to arrive at it.

    ??? You just said the percentage of white on white murder was 83%. And then you turn around and say .001% of the white population murdered by other white people. You do the same thing for the black people. You do realize that the first number and the second have to be the same?

    You actually seem to be trying to say that Whites murdered .001% of the total white population and that Blacks murdered .00525% of the total black population. It is statistically incorrect to say that black people murdered black people 5 times more based on population unless you're dealing with the same population.

    The proof is in the numbers you quoted. 2488 white people murdered by white people vs 2205 black people murdered by other black people. That's not even close to 5 times.

    You're making a common mistake. This is one of the reasons when you see people making proper comparisons, you might see it done as a rate per, i.e., 100,000 inhabitants.
    Not to mention, your math is wrong.

    2205/42,000,000=.0000525

    2488/247,000,000=.00001

    Statistically it won't change comparisons. But still wrong.

    But statistically speaking, there are a number of other reasons why what you're saying isn't exactly factual.

    https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/u...caution-against-ranking/cautionagainstranking
     
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    Come back when you can read and do math.
     
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    There's that darn u-tube.
     
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    Why don't you teach us how to figure out percentages, Zaac? Don't forget to move those decimal places.
     
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    Thumbsup

    Two places to the Right when making a peRcent

    Two places to the Left when making a decimaL
     
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    Since it went over both of your heads, I was showing the math to find the rate per 100,000 people. So there was no decimal point or places that needed to be moved.Thumbsup

    And as was said,
    Pick one because you certainly can't have 83% white on white murder and 0.001% of the white population murdered by white people. Bad phrasing and bad math.
     
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    Baloney, you specifically said, "Not to mention, your math is wrong." My math wasn't wrong.

    You can have both:

    Regarding all the murders of white people, 83% had a white offender.
    In regards to the population of all white people, 0.001% of that population was murdered by other white people.
     
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    Your math is wrong. But alas, I don't really care because you haven't added anything to the conversation about the thread topic.

    And as I said before, bad phrasing and trying to fix it now by sticking ALL in there, doesn't change what was said.
     
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    It's funny that everyone else was able to clearly understand what I posted and also understand that my math was correct.
     
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    What's funny is that you were wrong and they all just accepted it because nobody wanted to challenge the status quo. Right up there with "X group is X times more likely to do Y than Z group". Always 50/50.Biggrin
     
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    Your favorite lie.
     
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    Yep:rolleyes:, my favorite lie shows why you don't have any idea about what you speak. but then again if 98% of you believe it to be a lie, then by all means make the truth into a lie.Thumbsup I'll still speak the truth.
     
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    But aren't we all equally disposed to believe it or not believe it?
     
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    Yep. But just because you say 2 + 2 = 3, doesn't make it so...unless you're in a non-Euclidean Geometry realm.Biggrin
     
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    .00001 and .001% are both correct, merely the same fraction (1/100,000) presented in two different ways - both valid. The same goes for .0000525 and .00525%. The rules shown in #10 are pretty basic arithmetic; equating them to claiming 2 + 2 = 3 is . . . odd.
     

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