In the 'What Is A Biblicist' thread just completed, there were basically 3 definitions presented. One of them was "a Biblicist is someone who is neither Calvinist nor Arminian." That's what this post is about. That's not what it means to me, but some, particularly our Calvinist members, objected to that definition (or using the term in any way, for that matter). Others object to its use in any way because it implies a superior or arrogant possession of the scriptures, something that had never occured to me before. But it seems the Calvinist position doesn't allow for any intermediary position between the extremes of Arminianism and Calvinism. If you're not Calvinistic, you're Arminian and there is no other possibility. As one who has never embraced Arminianism, the following two posts are an effort to show there is another Biblical position other than C or A. It was commented more than once that the 'Biblicists' had not defined what they believe. I speak for noone else, but here is what I believe about C and A. Structured on the TULIP Five Points of Calvinism, the first post covers points 1 and 2, while the second deals with points 3, 4, and 5. It is prayerfully hoped that this effort will shed light and not contention or division, though I suspect it will be very controversial. This is not a case for the term 'Biblicist', nor an effort to define it. It is, instead, intended to make the case that there exists Biblical truth outside of C and A. The structure of the post is a Comparison Chart of Calvinism vs. Arminianism, that was linked in the other thread, from a Calvinist website, and is written by Calvinists and credited below.*** Each point is stated individually, word for word, then a response is given. In writing this, there was no research done, and no scripture was referred to. I thought this was very important to get an accurate picture of where a supposed 'Biblicist' stood, since I had claimed to be one, so there was no preparation whatsoever. As such, I am sure there are many flaws, and I would be grateful for you to point them out. But this is not designed to make a theological case or persuade anyone to any point or point of view. And this is certainly not intended to be another Calvin vs. Arminian debate. Some give and take on C and A will be unavoidable and I hope profitable, but I hope we can keep most of the discussion to the evidence of another position that exists somewhere between Calvinism and Arminianism. Lastly, I am most interested in your opinion, what you agree with and what you don't. Thanks in advance and God Bless. IveyLeaguer *** The following material was taken from The Five Points of CALVINISM - Defined, Defended, Documented. David N. Steele and Curtis Thomas, are Baptist ministers in Little Rock, Arkansas. Their contrast of the Five Points of Calvinism with the Five Points of Arminianism is the clearest and most concise form found for the edification of the average student. It is also included as an Appendix in, Romans: An Interpretive Outline by the same authors. Each of these books is published by the Presbyterian and Reformed Publishing Co., Phillipsburg, N.J.