"A Common Word"

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  1. Debby in Philly

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    It is impossible to find favor in God's eye. We have to be cloaked in Christ's righteousness. Since muslims deny my savior's deity, they cannot worship the same Father God that I do. Further, I am not commanded to find common ground with them, I am commanded to declare his name among the heathen.
     
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    This a wonderful idea. Yes, love God and love your neighbor sums up the Christian walk. We should join hands with all Muslims and those of any religion who are willing to find common ground with us on this. :)
     
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    There is no common ground to be found where God is concerned.

    1Jo 2:22 Who is the liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? This is the antichrist, he who denies the Father and the Son.
     
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    Nothing about the blood of Christ ? Isn't that SOMEWHERE in the Christian walk ?
     
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    I understand.

    I am referring to behavior, Bro. Curtis, not theology.
     
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    I'll agree in behavior, but not in theology. I met a Muslim in school that told me in no uncertain terms that if he were a devout, practicing Muslim, he would not tolerate those of us that were Christians. End of story. But the issue seems to be that there are as many backslidden, non-practicing Muslims as there are apathetic, non-practicing Christians. Could that be part of the reason they have so much in common?
     
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    [QUOTEThis a wonderful idea. Yes, love God and love your neighbor sums up the Christian walk. We should join hands with all Muslims and those of any religion who are willing to find common ground with us on this.
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    Believers and non-believers shouldn't be joining hands and especially concerning theological common grounds, which is what the OP stated.

    The god of Islam is the moon and its prophet was possessed by demons.

    My God is alive and His Son is My Savior.

    Not holding a musliims hand, not holding a budhist hand, and I am no holding a pagans hand. Sorry, I don't see in scripture saying I have to join hands with unbelievers.

    I didn't say anything about loving them, I can do that from the confines of my own yard.
     
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    Common ground, yes.

    But they're wasting time trying to make a case that we worship a common(the same) God. It just isn't so.
     
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    not for me, no, thank you.

    I ain't gon' mess with them, 'slong as they don' mess with me.

    i'll nod to them, when they nod to me, smile at them, when they smile at me, heck, even be friendly to them, no problem there.

    but I don' have no common word for them, and with them.
     
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    I am in the middle of reading Genesis: A Living Conversation, the companion volume to Bill Moyers' PBS series on Genesis. It has been very interesting to read as the 38 participants discuss the stories of Adam and Eve, Cain and Abel, Abraham and Sarah, Isaac, Jacob, and Joseph, from the perspectives of Christians, Jews, Muslims, even a Buddhist, Catholics, Protestants, professors, doctors, businesspeople, writers, and others. A large part of this process is the finding of common ground among these various religions. Another part is defining the differences that separate us.

    It is my opinion that Ken is right. We need to be finding ways to build relationships with these other religions. We need to get down off our high horse of pride and arrogance and get to work binding up the wounds of our religious wars.

    Tim Reynolds
     
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    True.

    No common ground.

    I would rather read the Bible instead of human authors.

    Loving my neighbor doesn't include hitching my yoke with those who do not believe the way I do, or expecting them to hitch their yokes with me.

    The Bible says "If it be possible, as much as lieth in you, live peaceably with all men". (Romans 12:18). I find this to mean civil life, not religious life, since the same writer of Romans wrote again in 2 Corinthians 6:14, "Be ye not unequally yoked together with unbelievers: for what fellowship hath righteousness with unrighteousness? and what communion hath light with darkness".

    And darkness is what Islam is, and the only reason they are singing the "common ground" song is because their "fundamental jihadists" are making it difficult for them to live in non-Islamic nations. So their "common ground" is really self-serving.

     
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    no common ground with people who want to kill you because you believe differently then they do. (commanded by their holy book they say they believe)
     
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    Which is, of course, what my comments were directed toward - how we as human beings interact with each other.

    In no way was I suggesting that Christians should compromise our theological beliefs in any way.
     
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    Pro 1:15 My son, walk not thou in the way with them; refrain thy foot from their path:
    Pro 1:16 For their feet run to evil, and make haste to shed blood.

    contextually a little off this subject, but not far.
     
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    Yes, there is quite a difference between joining with other people to do evil and shed blood and joining with other people to find common ground for behavior to do good and promote peace.
     
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    Does anyone notice how covertly the idea that Jesus is not Deity is sprinkled throughout the text? "He has no associate" etc?

    It's like they keep repeating the stuff about love God and your neighbor so loudly and denying who Jesus is so quietly, that they hope you will agree to the document as a whole, and then later when you complain about Jesus' identity they will remind you "But you signed this, and see, right there, there it is! - God has no associate and Mohammad is his prophet."
     
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    It's kind of like so many Christians finding common ground with Christ-rejecting Jews on issues such as support for the modern political state of Israel.
     
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    Poor comparison, comparing God's Chosen people to the spawn of satan himself. That really isn't a very good comparison. Unlike Muslims and Christians, Jews and Christians have the same God. And God still uses the Jewish people today and will in the future. They are always His chosen people.

    And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. Genesis 12:3

    God was talking to Abraham, the father of Israel, the Jews.
     
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    1) Today if one rejects Christ Jesus as God is he/she worshipping the same God?

    2) Galatians 3:7-9 (ESV)
    Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham. [8] And the Scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, preached the gospel beforehand to Abraham, saying, "In you shall all the nations be blessed." [9] So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

    Galatians 3:16 (ESV)
    Now the promises were made to Abraham and to his offspring. It does not say, "And to offsprings," referring to many, but referring to one, "And to your offspring," who is Christ.

    Galatians 3:29 (ESV)
    And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise.
     
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