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A comparison of dispentional system of the Ante-Nicen Age:

Discussion in 'Other Christian Denominations' started by John3v36, Jan 25, 2005.

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  1. John3v36

    John3v36 New Member

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    Another topic I had going the following statement was made with my following comments I thought I would make it its separate topic.
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    Last time I checked, the Rapture did not show up in the writings of Justinus Martyr.

    As for other aspects of Dispensationalism. Proof please!

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    If you are looking for the word Dispensation you will not find it but you will find the concept.
    the convent view point can not be found till the 3rd century.

    A comparison of dispentional system of the Ante-Nicen Age:

    Justin Martyr (100 - 165 AD) {Dialogue with Trypho}
    Enoch / Noah (Adam to Abraham) Chap 92; cf chap 27
    Abraham (Abraham To Moses) Chap 92; cf. chap 19
    Moses (Moses to Christ) Chap 92 cf. 43
    Christ (Christ to Eternal state?) Chap 23, 43, 45
    Millennium (Seventh millenary of years) chap 81; Frag 15

    Irenaeus (120-202 AD) {Against Heresies}
    (3. 11. 8) Four Covenants (4. 9. 3)
    Adam to Noah (3. 11. 8; 4. 16. 2)
    Noah to Mose (3. 11. 8; 4. 16. 2)
    Moses to Christ (3. 11. 8; 4. 16. 2-3)
    Christ to Eternmal State? (3. 11. 8-9; 4. 9. 1-3)
    Millennium (Seventh millenary of years) (4. 16. 1; 5. 30. 4; 5. 33.2)

    Tertullian (150-225 AD)
    An Answer to the Jews
    Adam - Chaps 2, 4, 5
    Noah - Chap 2, 4
    Abraham - Chap 2-6
    Moses Chap 2-6
    Christ (More faithful worshipers) Apology Chap 21
    Millennium Apology Chap 49

    Tertullian (150-225 AD)
    Against Paxeas
    Adam - Chaps 16
    Noah - Chap 16
    Abraham - Chap 16
    Moses Chap 16
    Christ (More faithful worshipers) Ag.Marc. 3-4, 20
    Millennium- On the Res. 59,61

    Not only the above but “Victorinus of Petau” (on the Creation of the world)


    But above all Gods Word teaches it


    Saint John [​IMG]
     
    #1 John3v36, Jan 25, 2005
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    bump
     
    #2 John3v36, Jan 26, 2005
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    Bump.. Bump..
     
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    Johnny,

    Where exactly does the Bible teach premillenialism?

    This doctrine can be broken down into three basic parts.

    Pre - before

    millenial - 1000 years

    ism - ain't so

    In Christ,

    bmerr
     
    #4 bmerr, Jul 19, 2005
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    The fact that the rapture was expected at any moment. Would make it premillenial.
     
    #5 John3v36, Mar 14, 2006
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    Not necessarily, belief in the imminence of the end of days does not make it premillenial as amillenialist believe in the imminence of the end of days.
     
    #6 Chemnitz, Mar 14, 2006
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    Not necessarily, belief in the imminence of the end of days does not make it premillenial as amillenialist believe in the imminence of the end of days. </font>[/QUOTE]that may be true but the order of Revelations teaches pre-mil
     
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    Really? I see several different views of the same time period interspersed with a few interludes culminating in Christ's return and the new heaven and new earth.
     
    #8 Chemnitz, Mar 21, 2006
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    I see that as well. [​IMG]
     
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    I see none of the schems prior to Nicea (325AD)
    were at all predictive of the length
    of nor the name of what we now call the
    Church Age (AKA /also known as/ Time of the Gentiles, Age of Grace, etc). And none of the
    7 churches of Revelation/7 sub-age schemas
    today is predive either. To believe that
    all 'dispensationalism' is about is these
    7 churches of Revelation = 7 sub-age schemas,
    is to Limit God's Economy (AKA: Dispensation).
    God is not limited by our bad guesses.
     
    #10 Ed Edwards, Mar 22, 2006
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